Personally I'd give it a little longer, now you know how to switch between trip and total averages try to modify your driving to get the trip average up as this responds quicker to any throttle / break use.. To get the best mpg I have to really keep the right foot just feathering the throttle when needed.. The very tall gearing on the Ecos does take some getting used to and I also find mpg creeps up when I leave the motorway and get on some flat A roads sat at 40 in 4th around 1500 rpm
I'd say let it run in, have it's first oil change and see where you go from there.
On a side issue, my car came with Pirelli P7s, and they wern't great at anything.
Michelin Energy Savers or Goodyear Efficient Grips would be a better option.
On a side issue, my car came with Pirelli P7s, and they wern't great at anything.
Michelin Energy Savers or Goodyear Efficient Grips would be a better option.
Yesterday I drove 60 miles on A roads (50mph) with a few roundabouts and averaged 39.6mpg in a LCR.
Now that's kind of interesting as according to the brochure to get the 99g of CO figure the green E ecomotive has a few aero tweeks (filled in front grill & front wheel air deflectors) as well as low rolling resistance tyres.
If Seat are no longer fitting LRR tyres does that mean the car no longer meets tax band A requirements?
Apologies for getting a little of topic..
Done a little research and LRR tyres would in general offer another 3 mpg, I noticed around a 3 mpg drop when I fitted my 18" wheels shod with Dunlop rubber which isn't supposed to be very fuel efficient.
so I'm in total possibly 6 mpg down on the max I can squeeze out of mine so 80 mpg is possible!
I'm still on the standard 16" wheels and I drove it for about 40 mins earlier some dual carriageway some motorway and some traffic and round the street style driving(just about all types)and the highest I got was 40.2 mpg.
Those figures of 74 mpg etc seem a million miles away to be honest.
Looks like the pirelli p7's are a cheaper equivalent to the low resistance tyres and are put on deliberately.
I don't know if it
Would affect the co2 emissions though,that might be how they're getting away with it perhaps?
Nice car to.looks like mine
Those figures of 74 mpg etc seem a million miles away to be honest.
Looks like the pirelli p7's are a cheaper equivalent to the low resistance tyres and are put on deliberately.
I don't know if it
Would affect the co2 emissions though,that might be how they're getting away with it perhaps?
Nice car to.looks like mine
Realistically I think you are looking at mid to upper 50's when everything has settled in and depending on your driving terrain and technique for a day to day mpg figure.
Not sure if something has changed in the way manufacturers can quote the 3 mpg figures but I've just been speaking with a friend who owns a Focus ecotech and he is getting considerably less than book figures as well.
Maybe the OEMs have found a loophole in the way the mpg tests are carried out..
Not sure if something has changed in the way manufacturers can quote the 3 mpg figures but I've just been speaking with a friend who owns a Focus ecotech and he is getting considerably less than book figures as well.
Maybe the OEMs have found a loophole in the way the mpg tests are carried out..
Got these on the wife's Ibiza, shocking the lack of grip they provide when down to 3mm or below, they were never great but I can't wait to get them off now. . .
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I'll probably do that. On a journey home today, it did some town driving but was at a pretty constant 30 or 40mph as the lights were kind, a short blast on the motorway, and then mainly A roads at 40-50mph until I got near home and did more town driving constantly at 30mph (lights were kind again).
I averaged 57.5mpg (which is a bit better) but it wasn't the motorway driving that helped, it was the A road driving and constant speed town driving. On the motorway at 70mph, on flat parts, I was getting low to mid 50s at 70mph (which is a bit better than before).
I'll give it probably 2 or 3 more tanks, and if I don't average around 60mpg, I'm taking it back in. I don't think I'm being optimistic asking for that, because I've seen plenty of people in the same engine around this age getting that.
That's a good point, as I am fitted with Pirelli P7s, which may be affecting slightly. I can't afford to upgrade until the tyres need it though, so am going to have to wait on that front.
One thing it might be worth noting, is that I bought the car from hobins of bury, but have since been told not to go back there as they aren't very good. I fear they may have been a bit lax with the servicing and possibly missed an ECU update or something? I dunno, maybe I'm clutching at straws! If it's still not good over the next couple of tanks, I'll probably take it to the local dealer and ask them to check for error codes or ECU updates and go from there.
I did note the way you said to to drive, and I have done what you said today, and noticed a small increase on motorway mileage, so hopefully this will help. I've been advised that with a CR engine to keep it off load and keep it at slightly higher revs. The max torque is at 1500RPM so I'm aiming my gear changes to land around that because it's not laboured.
Someone else on another forum, like you suggested my town driving revs could be slightly low, causing the DPF regen on the motorways causing my low mpg, so I'll keep driving like this and see how I go over the next 2 tanks.
Are you driving an ecomotive? How many miles are on yours, and could you maybe give me a description of how you drive it (revs etc) just so I can get an idea
I'm still on the standard 16" wheels and I drove it for about 40 mins earlier some dual carriageway some motorway and some traffic and round the street style driving(just about all types)and the highest I got was 40.2 mpg.
Those figures of 74 mpg etc seem a million miles away to be honest.
Looks like the pirelli p7's are a cheaper equivalent to the low resistance tyres and are put on deliberately.
I don't know if it
Would affect the co2 emissions though,that might be how they're getting away with it perhaps?
Nice car to.looks like mine
Yeah, you're is still much lower mileage than mine, so I'd expect that, around my mileage, I would expect you to be above me, as that's what other users of this engine have reported.
I don't think 50s is realistic for this car, I think it's low. Many other users have reported (In the Leon, Fabia, and Golf) easily managing mpgs in the 70s on motorway runs at 60mph. These aren't ridiculous motorway runs either, they're only shortish ones of say 30 miles. They're even averaging in the 70s and late 60s easy.
As above, I'll give it a couple more tanks, report back and see whether I've decided to take it in to have a look at. If anyone has any other posts, ideas etc, or responses to questions above, please post them
Cheers.
My normal driving habits are 30-40% in town and 60-70% on A-Roads, I've averaged 53.3mpg over the last 13k / 10 months. I'm currently on 2 worn good years, 1 new good year and 1 new avon.
Once you're run in, you've got to get more than me or there is something wrong.
It's worth saying my mfd is consistantly saying my #2 figure is 56-57mpg so it's about 3mpg off
Once you're run in, you've got to get more than me or there is something wrong.
It's worth saying my mfd is consistantly saying my #2 figure is 56-57mpg so it's about 3mpg off
last weekend did a round trip from Manchester - edinburgh & back to Manchester in my 1.4 TSi petrol.
covered 465 miles on 13/16ths of a tank (45 litres)
the most MPG the on board computer registered was 57.4MPG on the way back on the A74M.
i stuck it to 62mph on cruise control all the way there and back
i would imagine, once your ecomotive is run in, you'd be getting a better mpg return tha that!
covered 465 miles on 13/16ths of a tank (45 litres)
the most MPG the on board computer registered was 57.4MPG on the way back on the A74M.
i stuck it to 62mph on cruise control all the way there and back
i would imagine, once your ecomotive is run in, you'd be getting a better mpg return tha that!
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Thanks for those figures mate, gives me something to aim for.
Yeah, thanks for that info
Hopefull this will sort itself out.
Glad you managed to increase it a bit.Try just doing 60-65mph on the motorway.I know its slow but as the speeds rise, aerodynamic drag plays more into it.
On "normal" driving to get good results you might have to totally change your driving style(or maybe not, I don't know how you drive).The main points I learnt were to keep your momentum so no unnecessary slowing down and speeding up.You might think you need to slow down because the car in front has started braking, I'd say in that case you are too close to that car and could have just eased off slightly or even not at all if there's a good gap.It's the same at junctions, roundabouts and traffic lights.I rarely have to stop for these, looking well ahead and timing my approach to them so its clear when I get there.
When going down hills, keep it in gear let the car roll down with no throttle, this uses no fuel at all.When going up hills, try and get your speed up a bt before you hit it, then gradually ease off as you climb.
Its all little things that help, that most people don't do because they are in a rush.The reality is, when I taught people how to do this stuff, we timed a set route their way and timed it my way.My way was either the same or faster and in all cases used less fuel.
On "normal" driving to get good results you might have to totally change your driving style(or maybe not, I don't know how you drive).The main points I learnt were to keep your momentum so no unnecessary slowing down and speeding up.You might think you need to slow down because the car in front has started braking, I'd say in that case you are too close to that car and could have just eased off slightly or even not at all if there's a good gap.It's the same at junctions, roundabouts and traffic lights.I rarely have to stop for these, looking well ahead and timing my approach to them so its clear when I get there.
When going down hills, keep it in gear let the car roll down with no throttle, this uses no fuel at all.When going up hills, try and get your speed up a bt before you hit it, then gradually ease off as you climb.
Its all little things that help, that most people don't do because they are in a rush.The reality is, when I taught people how to do this stuff, we timed a set route their way and timed it my way.My way was either the same or faster and in all cases used less fuel.
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Yeah no worries mate.
I did a journey today that was 29(51%) miles at motorway speed, 24(42%) miles at A road, and 4(7%) miles at town speeds. The motorway speed was 70mph
Over that with a full boot and around 7/8 of a tank I managed 57.9mpg, however over half of the A road miles is up and down large hills and I was stuck behind an idiot who was affecting the mpg. So I still think the motorway mpg is worse than the 30-50mph mpg for some reason. It seems to be whenever I'm in 5th (at the correct speeds of course, not labouring the engine), I start getting poor mpg, I don't know whether 5th gear will have anything to do with it.
I hit the motorway with 53mpg average, and left the motorway at 57.8mpg average (but there was 4 miles of 50mph zone on the motorway which helped). Considering I was full that's not too bad, but overall, even though the motorway journey has lots of hills in it, it is downhill, so I'll have to see the same journey in the other direction and average the two. I also had the cruise on all the way which may have affected it slightly.
Just have to see how the next 2/3 tanks go and then make a decision. The average over the whole tank so far is only 52mpg.
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Managed a bit better today.
Averaged 67mpg, stuck at 60mph on about a 160 mile motorway run. It seems like it's starting to adjust at 60mph, but it's still higher at 30/40mph. 70mph is still around 50mpg or less.
Averaged 67mpg, stuck at 60mph on about a 160 mile motorway run. It seems like it's starting to adjust at 60mph, but it's still higher at 30/40mph. 70mph is still around 50mpg or less.
Done a 120 mile trip today about 50 50 motorway/dualcarrigeway driving and managed 61 mpg in the ecomotive,still only 700 on the clock as well so it seems to be getting better.considering their was quite a few hills to and I did some overtaking as well.
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Yeah well my journey was Manchester > Llandudno > Southport. I was at 70mpg on the way to Llandudno before I hit all the flipping hills in Wales. Had it been motorway all the way I reckon I could have just about hit 70mpg.
No idea why it's all of a sudden going better.
It's still poor at 70mph, and down at 30/40mph it's showing much higher on the 'real time display' but I can't really complain too much. Will keep monitoring it over the next few tanks.
Also, mine was done on cruise control, so I'm sure if I'd bothered to do it myself it would have been better.
No idea why it's all of a sudden going better.
It's still poor at 70mph, and down at 30/40mph it's showing much higher on the 'real time display' but I can't really complain too much. Will keep monitoring it over the next few tanks.
Also, mine was done on cruise control, so I'm sure if I'd bothered to do it myself it would have been better.
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