Wondering if anyone has or knows of the power/ torque graph for the Leon FR eHybrid. The engine only. Obviously the electric motor fills in the lower end of the power curve. But I’m interested to see what the engine is working at.
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Anyone got a power/torque curve for the Leon mk4 eHybrid?
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hello,
I hope you don't mind i use your topic..
I am also interested in the same, but in my case for the 1.0 TSI engine
I already sent an email to seat, which told me to contact the importer in portugal, which I did, but they couldn't help me either.
If anyone knows where we can get this data, I would be very grateful.
I hope you don't mind i use your topic..
I am also interested in the same, but in my case for the 1.0 TSI engine
I already sent an email to seat, which told me to contact the importer in portugal, which I did, but they couldn't help me either.
If anyone knows where we can get this data, I would be very grateful.
This is from Skoda (so it should be true and accurate) for their Octavia iV. It uses the exact same engine with the exact same horsepower, so I assume it is exactly what you are looking for:
That’s brilliant thank you. that steep curve probably explains why the engine is so gutless at lower revs, especially when you force it to not use the battery.
Hi there, i found out the curves for the 1.0tsi also 
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:Horsepower and Torque curve for 2023 Skoda Octavia Combi 1.0 TSI (110) (man. 6) model for Europe
Engine horsepower and torque curve for Skoda Octavia Combi 1.0 TSI (110) (man. 6) in 2023, the model with 5-door station wagon body and Line-3 999 cm3 / 60.9 cui, 81 kW / 110 PS / 109 hp (ECE) engine for Europe ..
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it does generally. But if you have no battery left, or you have it set to recharge/hold current percentage, it will fall back in ICE only. The car feels very different in this setup. It’s also just handy to know for safe overtaking. Making sure the engine is in the optimal power band, paired with the electric motor, will allow a quick & safe overtake.
Shouldn't be "gutless" as it has max torque (184 ftlb) at less than 2000rpm. That's more max torque, at half the revs, of any 2-litre N/A engine producing the same max power (150ps).
Yeah. My last Leon was a 2.0l turbo diesel. It had more ‘go’ even at lower revs, than the phev has when ICE only.
You can tell that the software de-tuning is there purely so they can sell the 205kw model. It’s an identical engine, battery & motors.
The detuning I'm referring to is to the ICE.
The normal torque curve is missing at low revs, presumably to be compensated for deliberately to reduce the fuel consumption by the electric motor.
All cars have levels of equipment and performance designed to sell a range of cars.
I'd imagine it would be cheaper to make one model of car and have have various option on that one model, but that's not what people want really, it's all about money or having something different.
If you are making a 4 cylinder petrol engine why make it in many sizes?
Electric motors are cool because the same motor can be driven at multiple power levels, you could do this for 4 cylinder petrol engines, but as you do so you eat more battery affecting the performance of the car and it's emmisions overall, range etc.
A hybrid with 10mile range is more limited than one with 20 and so on.
The normal torque curve is missing at low revs, presumably to be compensated for deliberately to reduce the fuel consumption by the electric motor.
All cars have levels of equipment and performance designed to sell a range of cars.
I'd imagine it would be cheaper to make one model of car and have have various option on that one model, but that's not what people want really, it's all about money or having something different.
If you are making a 4 cylinder petrol engine why make it in many sizes?
Electric motors are cool because the same motor can be driven at multiple power levels, you could do this for 4 cylinder petrol engines, but as you do so you eat more battery affecting the performance of the car and it's emmisions overall, range etc.
A hybrid with 10mile range is more limited than one with 20 and so on.
The torque curve just looks weird because its plotted on a EV graph, which starts from 0 rpm rather than a traditional plot which starts at 800rpm.
Looks like perfectly normal torque figures for an engine of that size and output too me. As glos phil said, it actually has quite a lot of torque at low revs, presumably due to a small quick spooling turbo
There are 2 graphs the top one, has an accelerating power and torque curve for the ice then it becomes normal. The curve bends the wrong way.
A normal shape is shown via the link to a 1.0l petrol.
No doubt it is expected that the electric motor is expected to compensate.
A normal shape is shown via the link to a 1.0l petrol.
No doubt it is expected that the electric motor is expected to compensate.
The power graph is irrelevent really, as power is just a function of torque x rpm /5252.
The torque curve is what matters and that looks well above average for a car of this type.
I think it's just that the OP is used to the low down torque of his previous diesel.
Are you sure it runs in ice mode only? I was under the impression the battery holds a reserve once it's down to 1% so you always have full power
The battery is 13kwh but in a sense it is partitioned. The part which allows electric only drive (and we have control over) is 10kwh. It always keeps remainder 3kwh in reserve so that you always have full power. So even when showing no charge you will still have the three kwh. It won't run in electric only drive when showing 0% but it will still go the same.
There is a big difference in power delivery between standard and sports mode. When in normal drive mode it relies much more on the ICE but when in sport the motor plays a much bigger support role. In standard mode and when recharging/holding it does seem slower but the accelerator pedal just needs a bigger push.
A car that lost 35% of it's power when the battery is flat would be not much use.
Thanks, very good explanation that's exactly what i thought.
The dealers are pretty much useless with this car not understanding how it works at all.
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