Better turbo for Ibiza FR Tdi 130

[Bregt14]

I`m looking for a better turbo for my ibiza FR tdi 130. I used the search but I can`t find serial no`s for a direct replacement. I preffer straight trough fitment..
Can somebody help me please?
Thanks in advance!

 

[Pixis5]

I bought from ScrollProducts the gt1859v hybrid they offer and it's made on a gt1749vb housing with a 56mm compressor wheel. This is rated at 240hp/450Nm. Still to be fitted, but looks nice on the box

 

[Bregt14]

Thanks! Does any one else have serial no`s?

 

[Bregt14]

GT1749VB (Hybrid) is the way to go I think?

 

[Pixis5]

GT1749VB (Hybrid) is the way to go I think?

Look... I fitted it today finally

 

[Bregt14]

and happy with it?

 

[Bregt14]

I think I`ll go for the GT1749VB , FMIC and a chip.
What can I Expect? 190hp and 400Nm torque? ( on the safe side?)

 

[Pixis5]

Really happy

You can get up to 200hp from the gt1749vb, fmic and repro.

 

[Bregt14]

200 will be enough. I want it to last, not a short time a lot of hp..

 

[Bregt14]

I received this types as alternatives:
vnt17/20, gt1752v, gt1756v, gt1852v en 1856v.
Where can I find the differences? What`s the best for max 200hp and a lot of torque?

 

[Pixis5]

I received this types as alternatives:
vnt17/20, gt1752v, gt1756v, gt1852v en 1856v.
Where can I find the differences? What`s the best for max 200hp and a lot of torque?

For best power and torque you might want to find a gt2256v... but for your power target and best daily driver I'd go with the VNT17/20 (like the one I have). Another option would be the gt1856v but might get a bit more laggy due to the bigger exhaust wheel. Don't go too short on your choice since you might always want more in the near future.

 

[majesty78]

If you keep your stock PD injectors you might stay with the GT1749VB from 150hp ARL engine. Turbo no. 721021-5006.
It flows just enough for what the injectors can deliver fuelwise without overspeeding the turbo.
You end up at around 185-190bhp, very good spoolup and a good torque band.

BUT: With stock SMIC you are limited to about 165hp, over that level your charge air temperatures will raise rapidly, so you might consider of using the Seat Ibiza Cupra FMIC to meet your power goals.

Regards, Alex

 

[Bregt14]

Thank you very much Alex and Pixis that was very helpfull.

 

[Bregt14]

I`ve bought a GT1749vb.

 

[reflexuk]

When fitting a unit such as the GT2256V there is no manifold constructed on it. How do we overcome this problem? Also, what are the issues regarding air inlet, outlet and exhaust connections compatibility and how are the individually solved?

 

[majesty78]

You need to custom fab up all parts needed for installation. Although I would not use an old technology GT2256V, there are way better options available.

If you want to go any "hybrid" route, stay away from turbos with clipped turbine wheels. Clipping ruins turbine efficiency and performance, its a bad bandaid to allow more exhaust flow, but increases exhaust gas temperatures and exhaust manifold pressure.

If you want a plug and play solution, you might contact Ryan from

www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk

he is a very nice and helpful guy with loads of experience and high quality parts for TDI tuning.

Regards, Alex

 

[reflexuk]

Thanks for that Alex. So, the simplest cheapest upgrade on a 130pd is a GT1749Vb and a remap to 185-190bhp so long as you have an fmic then, yes?

 

[Stuiemc]

What sort of cost would you be looking at for a turbo cabable of running upto 260bh?

 

[vindaloo]

What sort of cost would you be looking at for a turbo cabable of running upto 260bh?

Turbo itself, not too much, have a look on Darkside's website. Supporting mods to actually install the turbo and achieve 260BHP, erm... lots!

Going with the Darkside kit and adding bits on...

£2400 for turbo kit including manifolds.
£800 for injectors.
£800 for clutch and/or flywheel.
£200-800 for FMIC
£450 for custom remap and tweaks.

Add labour to that lot.

J.

 

[Stuiemc]

Could you not use a G60 flywheel and a VR6 clutch thatl save abit. And could a PD150 hybrid not get you up to that sort of power? Probably need a a milltek with a decat too.