Cambelt and DSG Oil Change

[nilz]

Hi Guys,

New to the forum and the Seat Family.

Just purchased a 12 plate 1.6tdi CR Copa Leon, it has the 7 speed DSG box and is on 47k.

Apologies if the question has previously been asked, I have had a look in the handbook and its not very clear and upon searching in here, I couldnt find a definitive answer to my 2 questions, so any help would be appreciated.

When does the cambelt and waterpump need to be changed?

When does the DSG Oil need to be changed/serviced, also what does it consist of?

The car has had a service just before we got it, but it was just an oil and filter change.

Thanks
Nilz

 

[Muttley]

The CR engines need cambelt changed at 80-100K miles or 4 years, according to people in the know.

The DSG gearbox oil change interval is 40k miles according to Volkswagen UK.

Is yours a Mk.2 or a Mk.3? 2012 seems a bit late for a Mk.2, that's all...

 

[nilz]

Hi Muttley, thanks for the response,

It is a Mark 2, it was registered in March 2012, so must be one of the last ones, so as its coming upto 4 years next March, it would be best to get the cambelt done then yea?

I think the car was last serviced at Seat at 35k, so not sure if the DSG oil change was done, i will need to check this and get it done in that case then, any ideas of time and cost for this at all, im based in Birmingham?

Thanks mate.
Nilz

 

[Muttley]

Never had a DSG box myself so I can't comment on costs. I'd say that you should change the cambelt at four years: most people find their cambelts show little sign of wear when they are taken off, but just now and then one will turn up that is close to shredded... and the consequences of cambelt failure are catastrophic. I don't have any hard data for the CR engine though, so hopefully someone else can provide a bit more info?

By the way, waterpump changes were a good idea on the older TDI engines that were built with plastic impellers - they got brittle, broke off, and caused overheating. I don't know if VAG have cured this problem in the later TDI engines. Having said that, the waterpump itself is only about £30 and the extra effort to change it if you have the cambelt off is negligable, so for peace of mind it may well be worth doing - replacing the pump with a reputable one that has a metal impeller. Shouldn't need doing again at the next cambelt change after that.

 

[James_R]

a mk2 with the 1.6cr and seven speed DSG box will be a final version on the facelift before the mk3.

The belt change as muttley has already said is circa the 80 - 100k mark but has changed to 5 year intervals. They changed back to five year intervals when the new minor, major, minor, major service regime came in to play. seat believed a major service and a cam belt change would put a lot of people off sticking with the dealer for maintenance work.

The 7 speed boxes have 2 compartments in them; the mechatronics unit which uses hydraulic fluid and is sealed for life and the gear set which uses normal gear oil, nothing fancy so has no set change interval, in essence it it is just like a manual box.

you may find that the gearbox was subject to the recent recall by vw which spanned the globe. The recall consisted of a gear oil change, a software update then a full recalibration of the gearbox.
apparently the recall came about because the wrong oil was used in the boxes during the manufacturing process. as such excessive swarf would build up in the box then attach themselves to the gear selectors, cause resistance on the selector and blown the main fuse which opens the clutches and renders the vehicle undrivable.

 

[James_R]

Also the plastic polymer used for the pump impellers has been revised several times in the past to stop them breaking up, however the bearings and seals seem to be the issue now!

 

[nilz]

Guys thanks so much for the replies so far, so is it 5 years then??? Lol

Also is there a link to the recall on the gearbox at all?

Thanks
Nilz

 

[James_R]

100% @ 5 years.

If you talk to a seat dealer or seat uk they'll be able to confirm if the recall is applicable to your vehicle or have a look in the boot for any stickers with a 4 digit number and a dealer stamp on it.

 

[nilz]

Thanks mate, ill give Seat a call to confirm next week.

 

[Speed-FReek]

I can also confirm that it's definitely now 5 years between cam belt changes. When mine came back from the dealers last week the health check reported 24 months remaining until a cam belt change is due (my car has just passed it's 3rd birthday).

 

[nilz]

Cheers for clearing up...can rest easy in that case.