Cupra 290 2019 Brake Caliper and carrier Torque settings
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Yes, I tend to clean up and apply new blue Loctite to callipers that have "bolts with blue Loctite" bolting into guide pins.
Some of these calliper carrier to hub bolts have something similar to NORD-LOCK captive washers on them, so as well being "torque to yield" in the case of the rear ones, I'd always replace if there were any locking elements built into fixings.
The front ones having a 200Nm torque figure, even where not advised to replace, I'd always replace, even if only to get rid of a rusted up headed set of bolts.
Some of these calliper carrier to hub bolts have something similar to NORD-LOCK captive washers on them, so as well being "torque to yield" in the case of the rear ones, I'd always replace if there were any locking elements built into fixings.
The front ones having a 200Nm torque figure, even where not advised to replace, I'd always replace, even if only to get rid of a rusted up headed set of bolts.
That is typical of all VW Group main dealer spares, they are exactly what they claim to be and never "repair kits" or "service kits". Also after you (I) have worked that out, you (I) go and buy new parts like O-rings to use when replacing an assembly - only to find that in some case everything you need is supplied.
Good advice
I replaced the front & rear brakes recently and reused the bolts, but added blue loctite. Used new sliding pins, cleaned & regreased them.I had a hard time removing the rear caliper bracket bolts, pfff. Space is tight and they were pretty rusty. Added a minimal amount of copper grease on the collar of the bolts.
@nd-photo.nl , I've still that this "rear callipers bracket bolts" bit to experience on my older daughter's 2019 Leon Cupra, new discs, pads and carrier bolts have been bought - I've done this job before on my previous 2000 VW Passat 4Motion, and Polos etc so that means that I've done that job on a car with rear wishbone suspension, but it seems that space is a bit more of a problem with the Cupra rear hub area, getting the car up as high as I can should help with a power bar to achieve the additional angular rotation, now that that car has got its MOT without any issues with the brakes, it will be a summer job I'd guess.
After checking an online VW Group web cat, I see that going by part numbers, at least for the 2019 Leon Cupra, a "set of front pads" is just that! So it is a bit of a secret society that you can only get into or use if you have access to a VW Group parts web cat!
I've done something a lot worse, I'll need to remove a front brake disc calliper carrier from my 2011 Audi S4 so that I can replace a front wheel bearing assembly, that model of car gets a bad name for the first callipers gripping/partly seizing on their calliper guide bushes, so, I've bought 2 sets of front brake guide bushes complete with rubber gaitors - that was how they were being sold by a brake parts supplier, now I'm thinking about replacing the bolts that pass through them, so onto the online VW Group web cat - bolts are not available by themselves, only as part of a kit with guide bushes and gaitors - oh bother!! So now I'll need to remove one, measure its length, then buy in 4 new bolts same size/strength! Life can be annoying some times!
Just a heads up - when I changed the rear discs on my Cupra 300 - The discs came out without removing the caliper carrier.
Also managed to get the new ones in the same way.
My sons 184tdi with the 272mm rear brakes needed the carrier removing to do his discs.
Also managed to get the new ones in the same way.
My sons 184tdi with the 272mm rear brakes needed the carrier removing to do his discs.
The rear pads don't come with the anti rattle shims either - I had to buy some Mintex MBA1679 for my Cupra 280 ST.
When I bought mine from the forum sponsor Cox Motor Parts back in 2023 they didn't come with them. The parts advisor checked all their boxes of pads and confirmed they weren't included. Cost me £14.15 for 4 delivered which was quite annoying as I could have saved on the postage if I'd known they needed to be ordered separately and could have been included in the original pad and disc order.
Not sure what parts you have brought - but the OEM pads do come with the caliper abutment clips & bolts.
I bought them from Pulman VW and neither bolts or shims were supplied in late 2023.
I don't work in the dealer network so I can't vouch for whether or not VW / SEAT have decided to become more generous in recent years and started including bolts and shims again. It was just a bit of an unpleasant surprise to find them no longer included as it meant additional hassle and expense I could have done without.
I would just recommend that anyone seeking to buy these parts checks whether or not they will be included and get them sorted as part of the same delivery package if needed so as to avoid unnecessary further postage.
I would just recommend that anyone seeking to buy these parts checks whether or not they will be included and get them sorted as part of the same delivery package if needed so as to avoid unnecessary further postage.
Useful info if in a pinch - but I would always recommend undoing the caliper carrier bolts at each brake service from a corrosion point of view - if left a few years they can get very hard to remove.
I did my Audi A4 quattro rear brakes and couldn't remove the caliper carrier bolts as it has even worse access than the Leon with it's 5 link rear axle and driveshafts in the way - so I just slid out the old disc - and slid in the new, to find the new disc binding on the carrier! Corrosion had distorted the carrier enough to bind on the new full thickness disc, and that also made the bolts mega tight!
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