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I don't sense any arrogance..just a case of sour grapes because u haven't been able to run the times.

To each his own...if u want to run with street tyres, that's your choice. If I want to run with semi's that's up to me.

Our golf 5gti ko4 ran a 12.051 and a 12.054. The car has no NOS, and is FWD. the only weight reduction was removal of the spare tyre. Tyres used were Hoosier semis in 245/45 17

Google 'fastest k04 gti' and u will find the video on YouTube as well as the APR website, so there's the proof for you. The car makes 400hp at the crank and 600Nm.

Honestly, get over yourselves. Just because u can't run the time, doesn't mean no one else can. I will post up a vid of the 12.7 which my Cupra ran.

All these runs were at official Motorsport South Africa events. MSA is affiliated to the FiA.

GIAC G6 gti ran an 11.8 in the US on ko4...that was with weight reduction tho. So u definitely don't need 500hp to run such times.
I agree :yes:. The 12.0 on the Golf seems remarkably quick vs every other one that has been publicised though! Please post the videos - it will give a few people on here and mk5golfgti something to chase :)
 
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The person with the fastest Mk2 Leon in the country probably doesnt even know of this Forum, let alone post responses here.

Just look at the SPOTTED section - only about 1% of the Posts there ever get a reply (plus it appears alot of those cars described might be Modded).
I have a friend who drives a unique Mk2 Leon, he doesnt use these forums.

Perhaps the Thread should be renamed to "Fasted Mk2 within the SeatCupraNet Forum COMMUNITY". ;) lol.
 
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I don't sense any arrogance..just a case of sour grapes because u haven't been able to run the times.

To each his own...if u want to run with street tyres, that's your choice. If I want to run with semi's that's up to me.

Our golf 5gti ko4 ran a 12.051 and a 12.054. The car has no NOS, and is FWD. the only weight reduction was removal of the spare tyre. Tyres used were Hoosier semis in 245/45 17

Google 'fastest k04 gti' and u will find the video on YouTube as well as the APR website, so there's the proof for you. The car makes 400hp at the crank and 600Nm.

Honestly, get over yourselves. Just because u can't run the time, doesn't mean no one else can. I will post up a vid of the 12.7 which my Cupra ran.

All these runs were at official Motorsport South Africa events. MSA is affiliated to the FiA.

GIAC G6 gti ran an 11.8 in the US on ko4...that was with weight reduction tho. So u definitely don't need 500hp to run such times.


Running slicks can make a huge difference on FWD cars and I think a low 12 would of achievable from mine if I had ran them. Like you say mate, personal choice.. :)
But comparing different 1/4 mile tracks is hard enough IMO, especially when in different countries/climates etc.
A 400bhp, DSG, KO4 car on slicks could quite easily manage that time IMO. But I am always dubious of 1/4 mile tracks on old runways etc that are not a permanent fixture (set up and taken down). I will always pay more attention to full time drag strips that can host Top Fuel events and the like. Gives it much more credibility IMO.. Seen so many dodgy times come from set up timed events, that should only be compared with cars run on the same day at the same event.
 
Out of interest mate, what settings do you use when running? I always ran mine on boost 8 or 9 when running at Pod until towards the end where I had a play about.
The first time I ran 12's I did a 12.97 @ 114.2 and this was running Boost 7, Timing 7 and Fuel 7. This was also short shifting to 2nd gear very quickly too.. You can hear it on this vid..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bp_jtWDuAQ

These conditions weren't great AT ALL and I only managed a 2.44 60ft on that run. I then only managed to get to Pod once more before the Golf went, where I removed the back seats and managed a 12.7. This however was with a 2.27 60ft and in better conditions, which made me wonder whether a 12.7 could of been possible in perfect conditions (better start) in full road trim. Just never got the chance unfortunately :(
The lower boost settings definitely helped though as it was less aggressive and you didn't spin all the power away as much.. Worth a try bud? ;)[/QUO

The settings depends on tyre use and weather, normally I run a B6 T4 F6 or B7 T5 F6, and use a B8 T6 F6.....The settings can be set at every car needs and how the car takes to it. If you feel to run B9 you need to use the right tyre for it and maybe wider like 235 in staid of 225 R888.Higher boost is not always better. What tyre was you using on this run?? Looking at your 60ft it seems to me you were running normal street tyres. I got my times down to 2.222 with street budget tyres and that's me just having fun. Nice car BTW!?

Congrats on your times I will be the making some fairly good times my self and will be trying hard to brake some times made. Don't want to be to optimistic but my confidence will get me there, fingers crossed! :happy:
 
I don't sense any arrogance..just a case of sour grapes because u haven't been able to run the times.

To each his own...if u want to run with street tyres, that's your choice. If I want to run with semi's that's up to me.

Our golf 5gti ko4 ran a 12.051 and a 12.054. The car has no NOS, and is FWD. the only weight reduction was removal of the spare tyre. Tyres used were Hoosier semis in 245/45 17

Google 'fastest k04 gti' and u will find the video on YouTube as well as the APR website, so there's the proof for you. The car makes 400hp at the crank and 600Nm.

Honestly, get over yourselves. Just because u can't run the time, doesn't mean no one else can. I will post up a vid of the 12.7 which my Cupra ran.

All these runs were at official Motorsport South Africa events. MSA is affiliated to the FiA.

GIAC G6 gti ran an 11.8 in the US on ko4...that was with weight reduction tho. So u definitely don't need 500hp to run such times.


Sorry m8 if you feel I came across to hard! Lets face the facts and see what reality really has to offer, lets start of with the real truth by knowing you can not push more then 360bhp out of a K04, fact!! A 360bhp Cupra FWD times are 13.000 at 114mph, another fact!! You will never run a 12.00 second K04 with out using NOS, another fact!!! You need a GT30 and have 500bhp to run a 11.9, another fact!! Sorry if your own false believes have you deluded! You will NEVER run a K04 at 12 flat unless he is running NOS!!

You see Ray ek weet wat ek doen Boeta! Hoekom moet ek nou so seur wees met silke kak! Ek doen die nou vir n lang tyd Ek weet nie hoekom jy my so loop aan val nie!? Ken jy vir Shaun Mooloo? Hy se hy ken jou?
 
I agree :yes:. The 12.0 on the Golf seems remarkably quick vs every other one that has been publicised though! Please post the videos - it will give a few people on here and mk5golfgti something to chase :)

AL come now don't be ignorant m8!! You know you can not make a 12 flat in a K04!!! They are using NOS bro!! :hole:
 
Sorry m8 if you feel I came across to hard! Lets face the facts and see what reality really has to offer, lets start of with the real truth by knowing you can not push more then 360bhp out of a K04, fact!! A 360bhp Cupra FWD times are 13.000 at 114mph, another fact!! You will never run a 12.00 second K04 with out using NOS, another fact!!! You need a GT30 and have 500bhp to run a 11.9, another fact!! Sorry if your own false believes have you deluded! You will NEVER run a K04 at 12 flat unless he is running NOS!!

You see Ray ek weet wat ek doen Boeta! Hoekom moet ek nou so seur wees met silke kak! Ek doen die nou vir n lang tyd Ek weet nie hoekom jy my so loop aan val nie!? Ken jy vir Shaun Mooloo? Hy se hy ken jou?

:-o Slaan jy nou uit met die taal!!!! Bliksem my broer, ek het nou regtig iets nuuts geleer vandag hahahahahahahaahha!!!!! Just goes to show, you never know.........
 
Running slicks can make a huge difference on FWD cars and I think a low 12 would of achievable from mine if I had ran them. Like you say mate, personal choice.. :)
But comparing different 1/4 mile tracks is hard enough IMO, especially when in different countries/climates etc.
A 400bhp, DSG, KO4 car on slicks could quite easily manage that time IMO. But I am always dubious of 1/4 mile tracks on old runways etc that are not a permanent fixture (set up and taken down). I will always pay more attention to full time drag strips that can host Top Fuel events and the like. Gives it much more credibility IMO.. Seen so many dodgy times come from set up timed events, that should only be compared with cars run on the same day at the same event.

This track is not a permanent fixture, but the distance and timing equipment is verified by Motorsport SA, who are independent of the race organiser. An official certificate is also issued. This track is at sea level.

Having said that, we took this same vehicle to altitude (1700 metres above sea level) it managed to run consistent 12.2 second passes. This track at Altitude is a permanent drag venue (Tarlton International Raceway), and hosts the big events which include the purpose built jet fuelled drag cars...the best time of the day was a 7.xx pass from one of these cars, with a few others in the 8 and 9 second bracket.

Yes, I hear you - there are many factors which play a role in a 1/4 mile time, and one will never be able to replicate these conditions across different countries, seasons, weather, tracks, setup, etc. Furthermore, the driver also plays a huge role, especially in getting off the line (for the DSG's) and the gear changes as well (for the manuals). BUT, this car in question has run the low 12 second bracket (under 12.5) on at least 10 different runs across different tracks an days, and has been running in the high 12's for over 2 years now. So its definitely no "one-hit wonder".

I am waiting on the official video from the Tarlton drag event which was the most recent one where the car ran a 12.2, and will post up when available. Our K04 Scirocco ran a best of 12.5 at this event, and our other G5 GTI K04 ran a best of 12.4. The other K04's on the same day were in the high 12's and 13's.
 
Sorry m8 if you feel I came across to hard! Lets face the facts and see what reality really has to offer, lets start of with the real truth by knowing you can not push more then 360bhp out of a K04, fact!! A 360bhp Cupra FWD times are 13.000 at 114mph, another fact!! You will never run a 12.00 second K04 with out using NOS, another fact!!! You need a GT30 and have 500bhp to run a 11.9, another fact!! Sorry if your own false believes have you deluded! You will NEVER run a K04 at 12 flat unless he is running NOS!!

You see Ray ek weet wat ek doen Boeta! Hoekom moet ek nou so seur wees met silke kak! Ek doen die nou vir n lang tyd Ek weet nie hoekom jy my so loop aan val nie!? Ken jy vir Shaun Mooloo? Hy se hy ken jou?

BTW...i dont speak Afrikaans, lol

Dude, why dont you ask your Buddy Shaun Mooloo to come and inspect the vehicle...he and/or anyone else is most welcome to pay us a visit at our workshop and have the car inspected. In fact, it would be better if he came to the track and did this himself, instead of spreading kak about us.

Fact is, when you work hard and achieve something which others haven't and couldnt, there will always be haters :p

There have been and still are all the disbelievers, and I have on many many occasions offered them to opportunity to do a full and proper inspection of the car, either at the track where the car has run or at our workshop, but none of them have the balls to do so. Would be great if you grew a pair and came over to inspect the car :D

I didnt say that the car made 400BHP - read properly. And just because you cant get more than 360bhp from a K04 doesnt mean nobody else can. APR certainly have been able to do so, and its no wonder, given their record.
 
The settings depends on tyre use and weather, normally I run a B6 T4 F6 or B7 T5 F6, and use a B8 T6 F6.....The settings can be set at every car needs and how the car takes to it. If you feel to run B9 you need to use the right tyre for it and maybe wider like 235 in staid of 225 R888.Higher boost is not always better. What tyre was you using on this run?? Looking at your 60ft it seems to me you were running normal street tyres. I got my times down to 2.222 with street budget tyres and that's me just having fun. Nice car BTW!?

Congrats on your times I will be the making some fairly good times my self and will be trying hard to brake some times made. Don't want to be to optimistic but my confidence will get me there, fingers crossed! :happy:


Well you've certainly improved a lot recently if you are down to 13.0 mate..

I ran PS2'S on the Golf mate. Couple of my best slips here...

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Do you have yours from your 13.0 run mate? Be good to compare (even if they are different tracks on different days)
 
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This track is not a permanent fixture, but the distance and timing equipment is verified by Motorsport SA, who are independent of the race organiser. An official certificate is also issued. This track is at sea level.

Having said that, we took this same vehicle to altitude (1700 metres above sea level) it managed to run consistent 12.2 second passes. This track at Altitude is a permanent drag venue (Tarlton International Raceway), and hosts the big events which include the purpose built jet fuelled drag cars...the best time of the day was a 7.xx pass from one of these cars, with a few others in the 8 and 9 second bracket.

Yes, I hear you - there are many factors which play a role in a 1/4 mile time, and one will never be able to replicate these conditions across different countries, seasons, weather, tracks, setup, etc. Furthermore, the driver also plays a huge role, especially in getting off the line (for the DSG's) and the gear changes as well (for the manuals). BUT, this car in question has run the low 12 second bracket (under 12.5) on at least 10 different runs across different tracks an days, and has been running in the high 12's for over 2 years now. So its definitely no "one-hit wonder".

I am waiting on the official video from the Tarlton drag event which was the most recent one where the car ran a 12.2, and will post up when available. Our K04 Scirocco ran a best of 12.5 at this event, and our other G5 GTI K04 ran a best of 12.4. The other K04's on the same day were in the high 12's and 13's.

As I said, with slicks times can come tumbling down and a low 12 I think is possible.. Regarding the track, IMO I still don't think you can compare with a PROPER set up drag strip. Seen it soooo many times before over here and the fact the car is running 122mph terminal speed raises eye brows too :confused:
Are these terminal speeds consistent at other tracks by the way?
 
Well you've certainly improved a lot recently if you are down to 13.0 mate..

I ran PS2'S on the Golf mate. Couple of my best slips here...

Full weight -


Rears out -



Do you have yours from your 13.0 run mate? Be good to compare (even if they are different tracks on different days)


Nice one!! No, did not keep mines but will do one very soon! The 19th of FEB or the next meeting after the 19th at Fast Ford! I will keep them and bring them to show!
 
This's the reality of a 450bhp turbo conversion, and not a K04!!

37 0.492 2.359 13.438@120 mph L
42 2.349 2.424 [email protected] mph L
76 0.872 2.184 [email protected] mph L
81 0.563 2.188 [email protected] mph L
137 0.454 2.135 [email protected] mph L
157 0.413 2.162 [email protected] mph L
164 0.592 2.105 13.404@119 mph L
229 0.536 2.158 [email protected] mph R
233 0.294 2.192 [email protected] mph R
238 0.552 2.286 [email protected] mph R
305 0.77 2.175 [email protected] mph L
309 0.369 2.12 [email protected] mph L
313 0.542 2.187 [email protected] mph L
 
As I said, with slicks times can come tumbling down and a low 12 I think is possible.. Regarding the track, IMO I still don't think you can compare with a PROPER set up drag strip. Seen it soooo many times before over here and the fact the car is running 122mph terminal speed raises eye brows too :confused:
Are these terminal speeds consistent at other tracks by the way?

Yes, I know what you are saying. At a PROPER set up drag strip, the car ran a best of 12.2. Terminal speed was 118mph. Bearing in mind the difference in altitude.

This car's power and pull is insane...one only has to go for a ride in this car to realise that. Perhaps Anthony's buddy Mooloo would like to come over and we'll give him a ride :)
 
London buddy! :D Now I defo have to make a trip up North to meet up hehehehehe

Yes do, you more then welcome to stay over for the weekend m8, I am up in Edinburgh!? We will make a trip to Crail raceway and we can race our cars all good fun. You will have the opportunity to meet Al as well?
 
This's the reality of a 450bhp turbo conversion, and not a K04!!

37 0.492 2.359 13.438@120 mph L
42 2.349 2.424 [email protected] mph L
76 0.872 2.184 [email protected] mph L
81 0.563 2.188 [email protected] mph L
137 0.454 2.135 [email protected] mph L
157 0.413 2.162 [email protected] mph L
164 0.592 2.105 13.404@119 mph L
229 0.536 2.158 [email protected] mph R
233 0.294 2.192 [email protected] mph R
238 0.552 2.286 [email protected] mph R
305 0.77 2.175 [email protected] mph L
309 0.369 2.12 [email protected] mph L
313 0.542 2.187 [email protected] mph L

The other reality of a 450bhp car is that its wheelspin is significantly more uncontrollable than a K04, which is clearly evident in these 60ft times.

You also underestimate the DSG gearbox. I presume the car that posted the above times was a manual. A 452bhp Seat Leon Cupra with a GT30 could only manage a 13.00 at the same track in South Africa.