Mani and DP questions?

[RobDon]

Not really, Star have done a few TT's and S3's with the stock manifold and downpipe, 330bhp and 300lbft is no problem with the GTRS. I've had a ride in one of the 330bhp Audi S3's and it ripped, felt alot more powerful than my car.

 

[TBCupraT]

Has anyone seen any logs from the K04 eliminators?

I'm keen to purchase the turbo for the Leon but what's putting me off is lack of logs.

 

[DPJ]

I must admit it's a far more attractive option.

The only thing I would do different here (apart from try to find an equal length mani) is have my own DP altered so it had the 'bend' as above.

I wonder if I could get a Quattro Eliminator turbine housing from ATP to swap for my housing

 

[PhilW]

Hang on, how does this make the inlet much easier if it, by the looks of it, shifts it further to the passenger side of the car?

Or does the fact the k04 manifold point 'upwards' help.

I've read that the k04 mani is better flowing than the k03.

 

[DPJ]

Rob, any chance of posting a few pictures of your acquired quattro manifold for us to ponder on?

 

[Feel]

I'd agree, it's got to be a winner.

Just a couple of things that pop in my head after reading the last few posts - the S3/TT225/LCR all use the same exhaust manifold.

It can't be hard to use a K04-2X downpipe, or downpipe and cat or even full system - it's going to line up with the K03 exhaust somewhere. Unless you're just trying to avoid changing it.

I know ChrisS3 has a ko4 eliminator on his S3, fitted by Star - 330bhp (IIRC). He was interested in the JBS Equal length manifold, which released a good few extra poinies on Sie's Imolavirus hybrid K04, so might be good on a GTRS.

Issue with turbo outlet and piping? I think Rob's already sorted that one though? Not sure about Dave, I can't remember what you did in the end?

As for logs, it's going to be similar to a full GT28RS (depending on trim), in fact...
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=136638

 

[PhilW]

For an ibiza which doesnt come with a k04 in any variant its gotta be the pro imports pipe.

Add a decent k04 mani and thats gotta see some nice gains along with being able to run a sweet inlet.

Dave, i bet your pissed at this now.

 

[DPJ]

................. Dave, i bet your pissed at this now.

Well yes. In the end it would have saved me a load of hassle.

The benefit of hindsight.

 

[RobDon]

Well, my plan now is to go for the quattro GTRS on the quattro manifold, adapter pipe to my existing 3" DP and 100-cell CAT and 3" inlet, which due to the quattro mani will sit above all the gear linkages by 1-2 inches (So Jim @ Star tells me). Even if the PI adapter pipe doesn't quite fit for some reason, it's a simple piece so I can get Meercat to make one up quite easily (Meercat make custom manifolds, exhausts, etc. and have made stuff for Keith Cowie, etc.. I'm going to have the mani and adapter ceramic coated before fitting too.

Sorry Dave!!!

I'll post up pics of the quattro manifold next to my old stock manifold, big difference in them and the turbo does indeed sit higher.

 

[h17och]

hold ya horses phil!!

i dont thik it will work on an ibiza...almost positive it wont

 

[h17och]

take a look at these pics in my thread with k04 on my engine. (also pics of the qauttro mani fitted)

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=121784&highlight=k04+ibiza

phil look at the pic of the back of my engine.

imagine the k04/k03 link pipe on the turbo....it would be nowhere near your standard DP

i think its a good idea if you get your own custom one made

 

[h17och]

that link pipe would hit the engine mount i think!?

 

[RobDon]

I may well get Meercat just to make me a custom one-piece DP.

 

[PhilW]

I cant see it hitting the engine mount, if all it is a 90degree bend, basically if the link pipe was to hit the engine mount the standard downpipe would hit also.

Standard downpipe bolts to the turbo at around cylinder 1 and 2, so it would be ok. remember the exhaust housing is offeset on a k03.

 

[h17och]

you have a point phil but ive seen how close a k04 is to the rear mount on an ibiza!
the DP in that pic of mine was about 1-2mm from the engine mount.

what you have to remember is not all 1.8t engine cars have the engine in the same place of the engine bay!

 

[PhilW]

I understand what your saying. Now the downpipe stays in the same position and the pipe just makes the link, the deciding factor will be if the top of the standard downpipe, the flange, is clear and above the engine mount then there wont be any fitment issues.

 

[DPJ]

I may well get Meercat just to make me a custom one-piece DP.

I would, Rob - i fact I can't see why they can't alter your existing one to suit. One less gasket to blow and and a neater job, especially considering ceramic coating. Are you going to run an EGT sensor?

 

[RobDon]

If I can afford it I'll get the ceramic-coated Piper LCR downpipe and CAT, failing that Meercat will make something up for me. I'm going to get one of the adapter pipes though and try it, got to be worth finding out if it mates up, if it does then it will save a load of money.

 

[PhilW]

If you could do that rob that would. Also if you want to sell it on if it fits i'll buy it off you.

I cant see it being a problem tho.

 

[RobDon]

I've decided that I can't be bothered changing everything over to the quattro stuff, I must be getting too old for this modding game! I'm going to to get the new GT28R Eliminator which will be a straight swap for my GT2X, my existing 2.5-3" inlet should be good enough for this turbo to make around 300bhp.

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/m...&Product_Code=ATP-VVW-167&Category_Code=VVWTK