More popular? Leon Cupra or TDI

[caribe]

I am getting the car lifted at the front.

I know about cornering, been racing karts and cars for a long time. Exit is always more important than than the entry etc. Just prefer the power delivery from something like a B18 or K20 engine.

The ESP does not kick in and the front actually is turning in slightly better than standard. Its definitely handling better than it did but will be lifted by Monday as I obviously dont want to damage the car.

Would still rather have a Cupra R oer the diesel.

 

[Proff_86]

The Cupra is far more popular and was produced for longer; it's a sports hatch in the same area as the Golf GTI. The main selling-point of diesels used to be running costs (as the fuel was much cheaper). The combination of diesel + sporty doesn't seem to connect with many drivers in the UK.

Suits me fine. I'm very happy with my Toledo TDI 150 Sport which ticks all the boxes for me - subtle (only a tiny little red TDI badge), well-sorted suspension, economical when driven quietly, power when I need it.

Caribe, you should be setting yourself up for a fast exit before entering the corner. Revs above 2K and keep a little power on all the way through, modulating carefully with the right foot. I notice in your other posts that you've lowered your car by, what, 60mm at the front? That's a very long way down for a diesel, and apart from putting your sump in very real danger, you're probably losing traction on the inside wheel. Is the ESP cutting in?

Brettyboy, there is power all through the rev range, it's just that the range is narrow, 2K-4K.

Agree with Muttleys comments entirely here, right on the money. I feel that Cupra TDI is a better all rounder for my needs personally, else I would of bought a cupra R as money wise there was nothing in it. However, I'm liking the idea of having my cake and eating it so I'm currently saving for a track car/ fast road project as I do miss the noise of a petrol engine, integra type r is currently top of the list as I've never owned a vtec.

 

[Brettyboy]

The Cupra is far more popular and was produced for longer; it's a sports hatch in the same area as the Golf GTI. The main selling-point of diesels used to be running costs (as the fuel was much cheaper). The combination of diesel + sporty doesn't seem to connect with many drivers in the UK.

Suits me fine. I'm very happy with my Toledo TDI 150 Sport which ticks all the boxes for me - subtle (only a tiny little red TDI badge), well-sorted suspension, economical when driven quietly, power when I need it.

Caribe, you should be setting yourself up for a fast exit before entering the corner. Revs above 2K and keep a little power on all the way through, modulating carefully with the right foot. I notice in your other posts that you've lowered your car by, what, 60mm at the front? That's a very long way down for a diesel, and apart from putting your sump in very real danger, you're probably losing traction on the inside wheel. Is the ESP cutting in?

Brettyboy, there is power all through the rev range, it's just that the range is narrow, 2K-4K.

I also agree with you but what i was trying to point out is if ur use to a petrol driving a diesel is different

Mine is a 110 & i've not had the joy of driving a 150,150 must be pretty quick of the mark specially if it remapped etc

 

[Seal_LCR]

I also agree with you but what i was trying to point out is if ur use to a petrol driving a diesel is different

Mine is a 110 & i've not had the joy of driving a 150,150 must be pretty quick of the mark specially if it remapped etc

I loved my fr+ 150 was great but always wanted its bigger better brother the LCR ;-)

 

[Muttley]

There's no doubt that the LCR (not the Cupra) is a very special car, a bit exotic, and more sports car than family hatchback. If that's what you want then nothing else will do - even a high powered diesel is going to suffer a weight penalty, the one area where the petrol engine will always win.

With my 150 I find the best part is not the power but the suspension, the Sport suspension is so much better than the Comfort setup on my old TDI 110 Toledo, giving much better roadholding, one of the keys to making fast, safe progress. Brakes is another, and I'll upgrade to bigger disks when these have worn out (won't be too long now). - just needs a different carrier, not new calipers. Power is needed too, of course, and I find I've got enough to keep me happy. More is always nice, but I'm happy with what I've got.