- Sep 20, 2017
I've not been on this site for a while and didn't realise the Toledo is no more. I am glad a bagged my bargain at £11,995 last year and not surprisingly it is far superior to my old 2008 Fabia estate 1.4 Tdi.
I'm new to the forum, and am considering a used Toledo 1.2 TSI (2014-2016) as there are savings to be had comparing equivilent trim levels for a used Leon or VW Golf.
I haven't been able to test drive one yet to see just how "bad" the ride is, that and I've also heard that the Sat Nav maps can't be updated if it's a UK car (not sure if that's true). The ride quality is certainly a concern since it seems to pop up in discussions.
The top trims actually look nice in the photos, definitely a step up from my 20 year old golf.
The little 1.0 has a useless torque band. I either accept travelling slowly or have to make hundreds more gearchanges than with a 1.2. DSG auto would make it more agreeable for sure.Wow lots of great information thanks, I didn't know that there was chain cam on the lower PSI 1.2 but a belt on the more powerful model.
It's a relief to hear the ride quality had improved even without having to change the springs. Surprised you're not happy with the newer nippy 1 ltr, though I'm presuming it's the same engine as on the 2016+ VW Golf that everyone seems to be saying good things about.
The 1.0 drives fine if you stir the gears and use the revs but that really costs at the pumps. Running it in from new with a recommended max 4000 rpm is a nightmare since overtaking just can't be done without revs.Thanks again for the info, I'm going to try test drive a 1ltr golf to see how I feel about it but cost wise it's outside my budget unfortunately, it's said to be smooth for 3 cylinder engine which is what piking my interest.
Apart from the aspect that smallish 3-cylinder engines are more economical, (less friction for starters) than a similar 4 cylinder, there are also advantages in their more compact physical size, greater torque output and less weight which can help emissions and economy.I have both right now. The 85PS 16V is an asthmatic antique true, but the new 1.0 turbo is such a retrograde step from its 1.2 predecessors. Why did they build it? To achieve VW some more dodgy official mpg and emissions numbers is my guess. I find the 1.2 TSI is so much more drivable and easier to get decent mpg from. The factory figures for the 1.0 are laughable when compared with reality.