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It is the same but the dye cause more smoke so gives plod a suspiscion to pull you and if you get caught with it in the big trouble
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It's a gamble mate which could get your car impounded.
The price of fuel is a p!ss take though.
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It's a gamble mate which could get your car impounded.
The price of fuel is a p!ss take though.
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I wouldn't since they take it pretty seriously now, can do spot checks for red diesel! I don't think an officer would accept that your car works on a farm haha 
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Red diesel (as the guys above said) just has an addition of dye.
The technical definition is this:
Red diesel is chemically identical to heating oil, and almost identical to the "white diesel" bought at the roadside. Other than the colour, the differences come down to the sulphur content and the cetane rating of the fuel.
White diesel usually has an ultra-low sulphur content of less than 50 parts per million, as well as additives to aid the combustion process; red diesel has up to 2000 parts per million, but their properties are almost identical.
A fuel's cetane rating is a measurement of the time delay between the moment the fuel is injected into the combustion chamber and the moment it is ignited by the heat inside. Cetane ratings usually vary between 30 and 60. The higher the rating, the better the engine should run.
White diesel has a minimum cetane rating of 51, red diesel around 45.
Hope this helps.
The technical definition is this:
Red diesel is chemically identical to heating oil, and almost identical to the "white diesel" bought at the roadside. Other than the colour, the differences come down to the sulphur content and the cetane rating of the fuel.
White diesel usually has an ultra-low sulphur content of less than 50 parts per million, as well as additives to aid the combustion process; red diesel has up to 2000 parts per million, but their properties are almost identical.
A fuel's cetane rating is a measurement of the time delay between the moment the fuel is injected into the combustion chamber and the moment it is ignited by the heat inside. Cetane ratings usually vary between 30 and 60. The higher the rating, the better the engine should run.
White diesel has a minimum cetane rating of 51, red diesel around 45.
Hope this helps.
If you filter red diesel through bread it becomes totally clean. The bread will not be edible after but it will be a nice read colour.
This topic is why diesel is commonly known as DERV. "Diesel Engined Road Vehicle". The "Road" bit means that the duty has been paid, no road duty is paid on red diesel.
It stains the insides of the fuel system almost permanently and even stains the insides of jerry cans used for red diesel. There can be cross contamination from jerry cans and this has caused people to be prosecuted in the past.
I've used it before in a road car (T reg Vauxhall Astra 2.0 DTI 16v) and it was fine but this was a few years ago before common rail injection came about.
Again, people bigging up Vpower diesel
They must be daft or be running a very very very high tune. If they reckon their car runs better on it they must have a fault IMO.
This topic is why diesel is commonly known as DERV. "Diesel Engined Road Vehicle". The "Road" bit means that the duty has been paid, no road duty is paid on red diesel.
It stains the insides of the fuel system almost permanently and even stains the insides of jerry cans used for red diesel. There can be cross contamination from jerry cans and this has caused people to be prosecuted in the past.
I've used it before in a road car (T reg Vauxhall Astra 2.0 DTI 16v) and it was fine but this was a few years ago before common rail injection came about.
Again, people bigging up Vpower diesel
They must be daft or be running a very very very high tune. If they reckon their car runs better on it they must have a fault IMO.
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If you filter red diesel through bread it becomes totally clean. The bread will not be edible after but it will be a nice read colour.
This topic is why diesel is commonly known as DERV. "Diesel Engined Road Vehicle". The "Road" bit means that the duty has been paid, no road duty is paid on red diesel.
It stains the insides of the fuel system almost permanently and even stains the insides of jerry cans used for red diesel. There can be cross contamination from jerry cans and this has caused people to be prosecuted in the past.
I've used it before in a road car (T reg Vauxhall Astra 2.0 DTI 16v) and it was fine but this was a few years ago before common rail injection came about.
Again, people bigging up Vpower diesel
My old leon couldnt run on anything else but vpower diesel in its final tune, the standard stuff used to make it missfire on full oad in the last 2 gears. Wouldn't touch red diesel but more people are. There was a guy with an octavia vrs tdi 2.0 tdi 170 CR running red and it made 203 bhp remapped
Not worth the risk imo. Spend all the time spending loads on money on bits and bobs for the car like wheels remaps and that but then want to risk it all for cheaper diesel? I wouldn't want to so anything that ment pc plum could take my keys to the car iv spent hundreds if not thousands of pounds on. Not logical to me. Also yeah fuel is a lot these days but that's why you got a diesel for the high mpg?? If you want better mpg buy a pedal cycle lol. Up to ou at the end of the day but is it really worth it.....
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WeeG, That's what I mean by a very very high tune. Yours was 230-240 from 170 stock IIRC. I hear about people with a 1.4 75 DERV insisting on vpower. Suckers. 
The cetane levels in Vpower are (up to) about 3% better. and when I say (up to) I mean it, a lot of the time it's 0.5-1% better. for an extra £5 on a tank, no thanks.
I know people that run older cars on cooking oil and heating oil with no problems at all, they just change their fuel filter more often. I've seen people in Tesco filling up with cooking oil in the car park and then putting the empty bottles in the recycling bin.
The cetane levels in Vpower are (up to) about 3% better. and when I say (up to) I mean it, a lot of the time it's 0.5-1% better. for an extra £5 on a tank, no thanks.
I know people that run older cars on cooking oil and heating oil with no problems at all, they just change their fuel filter more often. I've seen people in Tesco filling up with cooking oil in the car park and then putting the empty bottles in the recycling bin.
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Again, people bigging up Vpower diesel
Mine is stage 2 and even without any tuning i get about 50-60 miles more on Vpower ... I checked this 3 times so no brainer for me.
It'll run just fine, if not better. The only reason people have this fear that red diesel is bad for a car is due to bad storage of it, allowing water into the fuel. If you store it correctly or take it straight from the pump which most places round our parts allow then it'll be no different to using the white stuff, that's usually mixed with bio diesel and even heating oil in some cases.
If it was a potentially bad source of fuel due to the dye do you really think they would use it in quarry machinery and trains worth millions?
And if your worried about getting dipped get an some meshed fitted in your fuel filler pipe, then when they try dip you and can't get to the tank you can tell them there's a lot of fuel theft in your area hence the mesh. If they even ask a lot of cars have it already fitted in the pipe as standard for this very reason.
Now get yourself down to the garage in Annacloy and enjoy filling up for £25
then it'll be no different to using the white stuff, that's usually mixed with bio diesel and even heating oil in some cases.If it was a potentially bad source of fuel due to the dye do you really think they would use it in quarry machinery and trains worth millions?
And if your worried about getting dipped get an some meshed fitted in your fuel filler pipe, then when they try dip you and can't get to the tank you can tell them there's a lot of fuel theft in your area hence the mesh. If they even ask a lot of cars have it already fitted in the pipe as standard for this very reason.
Now get yourself down to the garage in Annacloy and enjoy filling up for £25
It'll run just fine, if not better. The only reason people have this fear that red diesel is bad for a car is due to bad storage of it, allowing water into the fuel. If you store it correctly or take it straight from the pump which most places round our parts allow
If it was a potentially bad source of fuel due to the dye do you really think they would use it in quarry machinery and trains worth millions?
And if your worried about getting dipped get an some meshed fitted in your fuel filler pipe, then when they try dip you and can't get to the tank you can tell them there's a lot of fuel theft in your area hence the mesh. If they even ask a lot of cars have it already fitted in the pipe as standard for this very reason.
Now get yourself down to the garage in Annacloy and enjoy filling up for £25
by **** now your talking
i use 5galllon of heating oil and 2litrs of cooking oil in my car have been dipped once i told them it was biodiesel and they let me go lmao the car is pd130 remapped to 175 and it made that power ont the mixture ive been putting through her she has 167k miles on her to and never misses a beat 30 to fill up vs 70 sounds like a no brainer to me
My old leon couldnt run on anything else but vpower diesel in its final tune, the standard stuff used to make it missfire on full oad in the last 2 gears. Wouldn't touch red diesel but more people are. There was a guy with an octavia vrs tdi 2.0 tdi 170 CR running red and it made 203 bhp remapped
Mine ran on standard diesel fine in final tune
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This is true, but at a much lower volume than red in the red diesel.
I know someone thats been running red on a Leon TDI (110, Non PD) since I started driving in 2002 and hasn't had any issues or tests at all.
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