t0m's LCR AmD Stage 2 - Turini's, Wavetrac LSD, Recaro's..

Fry over black or high power silver wheel refurb?

  • Fry over black wheel colour

    Votes: 16 61.5%
  • High power silver wheel colour

    Votes: 10 38.5%

  • Total voters
    26
  • Poll closed .

DOLBY

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Jun 24, 2006
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Fair enough chaps, you have your opinions and your own aims with your cars. They have all been looked after well.

All I'm saying is if I'm going to the expense of rods them I'm going 95% all out and I want the car hugely reliable.

Are you getting the awesome GTI one t0m? Can't believe how long these clutches last tbh :)


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Ronin225

Active Member
Jan 17, 2008
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Understand where youre coming from but if you air on the side of caution with everything you'd spend so much and never be able to fully utilise it.
Even after everything you're doing/have done bret, you still have a weak point (clutch and flywheel) which will last no time if the stregthened engine is fully used
 

J@mes W

Stage 1 Revo'd LCR
Jun 28, 2009
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Colchester
I think there comes a point where you start to spend so much money you may as well buy a better car, it often works out cheaper too. LCR's aren't worth an awful lot these days, there has to come a point where you call it a day. I'd rather save the money towards a 335i BMW. :)


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J@mes W

Stage 1 Revo'd LCR
Jun 28, 2009
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Well I'll need an all rounder/family car, seems like obvious replacement ;)

Sorry for going off topic Tom. :)


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EL

Forever Alive
Mar 17, 2008
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Good replacement car if you ask me.

This thread has been off topic for ages. Next we will be talking about go faster stripes on his car
 
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james.l

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Mar 18, 2008
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I think there comes a point where you start to spend so much money you may as well buy a better car, it often works out cheaper too. LCR's aren't worth an awful lot these days, there has to come a point where you call it a day. I'd rather save the money towards a 335i BMW. :)


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I tend to disagree, sell the lcr for 4-5k for a stage 1/2 and spend 25k extra on a BMW or spend 10k on tuning and make it Ferrari fast, I chose the latter of the 2.
 

J@mes W

Stage 1 Revo'd LCR
Jun 28, 2009
985
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Colchester
I tend to disagree, sell the lcr for 4-5k for a stage 1/2 and spend 25k extra on a BMW or spend 10k on tuning and make it Ferrari fast, I chose the latter of the 2.

335's can be had for 15K these days, nice ones too. This will hopefully be bought with a company car allowance in a couple of years if things go to plan, it'll need to be suitable for visiting and picking up customers from the airport as well being a family car and to have fun in, some thing the LCR wouldn't be suitable for. Struggling to think of any else which meets my criteria, although 4 door s3 is a possible replacement.

Nothing wrong with spending loads of wedge on a LCR, its just not for me in my current situation (mortgage and a kid), I said it before and I'll say it again... i absolutely love that the fact that cars like yours exist, i wouldn't be a petrol head if i didn't, i just love the lunacy of it, ya nutter ;) In a strange way your's makes more sense as its gone the full hog, taking its a completely other level. ;)
 
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james.l

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335's can be had for 15K these days, nice ones too. This will hopefully be bought with a company car allowance in a couple of years if things go to plan, it'll need to be suitable for visiting and picking up customers from the airport as well being a family car and to have fun in, some thing the LCR wouldn't be suitable for. Struggling to think of any else which meets my criteria, although 4 door s3 is a possible replacement.

Nothing wrong with spending loads of wedge on a LCR, its just not for me in my current situation (mortgage and a kid), I said it before and I'll say it again... i absolutely love that the fact that cars like yours exist, i wouldn't be a petrol head if i didn't, i just love the lunacy of it, ya nutter ;) In a strange way your's makes more sense as its gone the full hog, taking its a completely other level. ;)

Got to love mentalists :)
 

jonjay

50 Years of 911
Jun 27, 2005
5,843
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A diff will be great out on track but as its a very expensive mod it can wait. You mentioned you need a clutch and SMF, these will help greatly (as you know already).
A Diff is great in all conditions not just on track. You feel it working on all types of bends, roundabouts, snow, wet roads etc even at normal speeds. In fact you get so used to it being there that when you dont have it the car doesnt feel alive.....

HENCE I had to have one in the Audi even tho it has 4wd.
 

DOLBY

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Agreed. But not many folks will shell out 1k plus on a mod like this before rods etc, and especially on a 4k car these days unless it's a serious side project or dedicated track car.

It's the problem im currently having. Spend the money making the car I always wanted or call it quits doing the rods and tarting it up instead. :(


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james.l

GT3071r LCR
Mar 18, 2008
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A Diff is great in all conditions not just on track. You feel it working on all types of bends, roundabouts, snow, wet roads etc even at normal speeds. In fact you get so used to it being there that when you dont have it the car doesnt feel alive.....

HENCE I had to have one in the Audi even tho it has 4wd.

Second this, if I ever do a 4WD conversion I will be getting a diff in it.
 

JamJay

California Bound
I think there comes a point where you start to spend so much money you may as well buy a better car, it often works out cheaper too. LCR's aren't worth an awful lot these days, there has to come a point where you call it a day. I'd rather save the money towards a 335i BMW. :)


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If you think buying a 335i (standard) is going to trump an LCR out of the box and require less modification then think again :D haha. You'll be doing the same mods all over again however, you need to add BMW tax to some parts so expect to pay more for each thing. An enthusiast buying a 335i will want: a remap, downpipes, FMIC, intake, non-Run Flat & wider tyres (better than FK452's this time), coilovers, M3 control arms/polybushes,...see where i'm going with this one, sounds familiar, huh? That's about £4000 in mods at least not including fitting and I've quoted some decent - mid-range parts there too. Then you've got the old LSD argument, that can be had about any tuned car really and it's up to you but consider that the rear diff is welded past 2008 cars and the cost of a Quaife here is £2000. Add in some cosmetic changes such as lips, diffusers etc and that's really where BMW tax comes in, +£1000's as most is carbon fibre and can only be sourced from the USA. You'd also want some wider wheels really, a 9" x 9.5" setup is probably ideal. Also consider better brakes, although the discs are huge the braking power is not as forceful as you might hope and the single piston calipers aren't up to any sort of prolonged heavy abuse. Still, for £20k (based on £15k car purchased) you'd have a pretty sorted and VERY fast car (430+bhp), for £25k you'd have a super car destroyer.

Decent 335i? - £15k as you say however, this is for a 56 - 57 reg car which is without efficient dynamics aka £470 per year for road tax (ED came on 08+). High milers are all too common now and driven by people with no knowledge or care for the workings of a turbo charged car, expect the usual, abused extras such smokey exhausts, leaky oil seals etc.

Where the 335i (N54 twin turbo) does beat most standard, 'hot' cars though is that it has an oil cooler (M-Sport models, some SE's may not), forged pistons, forged conrods, high pressure fuel pump all of which will see it through 500bhp and more (with the addition of meth and hybrid turbo's). They also have a FMIC but this won't go beyond a stage 1 remap sadly.

Now, why I chose to switch to a 135i over a 335i? 6-piston brakes, more nimble, a little lighter, quicker of course, stiffer and more taught suspension & eLSD. While the eLSD is no match for a mechanical version it's a bridge between that and nothing at all, it even allows number 11's ;). The only thing that lets this car down, other than it's not as pretty as the 3-series is the smaller tyres but that can be changed of course. The car is better to modify from the outset, I feel a lot more confident to drive it fast and with a tune knowing that everything is better set up but that said, I want to stabalise it a little more before shooting for 400 - 430bhp so coilovers, bushes and tyres are next...then FMIC & downpipes.

Sorry to hijack your thread, Tom but the grass isn't always greener over this side people so if you're considering going b@lls out on a track car, the LCR is a good place to stay.

My advice on tuning a 335i while considering a budget? Buy a 56 plate 335i SE for around £12k, accept the road tax and plough £2k in mods (remap, downpipes, FMIC right away). The car will be insanely fast but will show up the parts which let it down, this can be done over time and in a straight line at leats you'll have a lot of fun. You'll need to respect the car though, 400+bhp on standard floppy suspension & tyres + RWD could kill you :D.

I guess you'll be pretty insterested in my 135i this Sunday, Dr Gonzo? You're welcome to have a nose around the N54 engine & have a spin if you like :).
 
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