Model Year 22/23 VZ2 Brake Upgrade

[Old Fella]

So, I have just bought a VZ2 and am already concerned about the poor brakes. There are a number of similar comments on the forum but there does not (as yet) appear to be a good solution.

I have not yet taken it apart to see if the pads are original or replacements, they may be as they look pretty clean.

My first thought is to see how easy it would be to retrofit the Brembo brakes and does anyone have a list of what is required. Obviously the discs and calipers, but do they mount in the same holes or is a new hub required, will I also need a new disc shieldI have 19” wheels, same size as the VZ3 but a different design so is there clearance on this design. Do I need to tell the car electronics that the calipers are different?

Any help or suggested brake improvement plans gratefully received!

 

[VEDI]

I believe the calipers will need a set of adapters/brackets. A number of websites sell 'kits' to make sure you have all the required parts to upgrade.

While you are upgrading, I'd browse pricing for the Akebono 6pot calipers from the VZ5.

The calipers seem a similar price to Brembo at some shops, but the different pads and rotors might tip the scales.

Clearance is a good question I hope someone can answer.

 

[cairus]

Just a note: Do you know that the brake type is stored in the ABS coding? So, any change should generally be made in the ABS as well. This is quite difficult with SFD 2 if the vehicle falls into SFD 2.

 

[Old Fella]

Thanks both. Useful info, I WAS wondering if any of the electronics would need coding. Not had VCDS on the car yet so no idea what is locked and what is not. Is there an easy way to find out when SFD 2 was implemented, ieVIN number?

 

[cairus]

VIN Position 10 is?

 

[Delanor]

I have a VZN with 375 bhp and Slotted Dimpled discs and uprated pads and the brakes are fine do you track your car?

 

[Old Fella]

Not quite sure what you mean by “track” ?

 

[Delanor]

Do you take your car to a race circuit (track) which is why a lot of owners uprate the brakes with multi piston caliper`s and larger discs to cope with the heavier braking required on a track which are a bit of over kill if you are you are just looking at a fast road set up.

 

[Bear]

I've not really noticed many posts showing concern about the standard brakes on the Formentor and I've also not been worried about the performance of the brakes on my VZ2. I don't take it out on track days but I do like to give it a bit of a thrashing every so often (as does my missus). Hence the 19mpg!

 

[Delanor]

The OE front brake discs on the 310 bhp car are 340 mm diameter - they are big discs, the Brembo`s are 370 mm with the OE discs getting on for £900 a pair without the caliper`s what sort of speeds on the road are you hitting that you need brakes that size for!

 

[VEDI]

Rotor cost is definitely worth considering. Pads not so much.

In Australia, quality aftermarket options for the 340mm rotors (stock) range from AU$350-$450 a pair.

Aftermarket 370mm rotors (for the Brembos) are generally only available as track performance options closer to AU$1200 a pair.

I hate to think what Cupra servicing would charge for OEM.

 

[Michael_LeonV]

I've got an Aus delivered 2024 Leon V that I changed the std brakes to the VZ/VZx (non-brembo) setup 340x30 & 310x22 vented brakes (mine were off a Golf R Performance Pack).
The only issue that I found was the dust shields on the rear require the hubs to be removed, so mine are running without rear dustshields. Otherwise a straight swap. Even the std 18" wheels fit !

The brakes are now GREAT and more than good enough even for the odd track day. As nice as the Brembo or Akebono setup looks, it's not worth the hassle or costs (imho).

 

[VEDI]

Bigger calipers and rotors might only shorten stopping distance a small amount, not nearly as much as people think. Upgrading tyres will generally see greater stopping improvement.

As above, the main benefit is less brake fade on track driving.

That being said, giant calipers look EXCELLENT regardless.