Won't start, and strange noise, EEEEK!!!

[Tangerine_Dream]

Hey guys, i really hope someone may be able to shed some light...

Went out to start the car, (2.0l 16v ABF) and, well, it won't!

Turns over fine, but wont spring to life. And there is now also a strange vibrating/humming sound coming from what i think is the idle control valve? I'ts under the black plastic cover on the front edge of the inlet manifold, with a black pipe going to the airbox. Car was working fine this afternoon, stopped and started it several times no problem, but now its having none of it.

Only thing i did that was out of the ordinary today was have it sat idling for a long time, over an hour, while i was changing the front speakers. Could this have anything to do with it, especially as the ICV (i think) is now making a wierd noise??

If anyone has any suggestions i am all ears! Many thanks guys,

P.S. Just been having a bit of a poke and a fiddle, and it doesnt seem to be the ICV that is making the humming/vibrating noise, as it is still there if i disconnect the valve. I'm even more stumped now than i was earlier

Rob.

 

[Dolly_Gti]

if the isv is humming its working.

my money is split between fuel pump relay or a coil pack. my first call would try and establish if the fuel pump is priming and running when you put the ignition on. if your sure youve got fuel its got a good chance of a coil pack fault

 

[Tangerine_Dream]

Thankyou for your reply!

The isv is humming, so it is working ok.

The fuel pump sounds like its priming ok too. The vibrating/humming sound that i get only happens briefly when i first put the ignition on, then it stops. When i try and start the car it then occurs again, and continues up untill i stop turning it over, then it stops too. It sounds as if a rotating part of a pump it sticking maybe, and causing the motor in the pump to sort of vibrate or throw a fit or something, but its coming from the engine bay, not the rear of the car. Most odd!

Is there a fuel pump in the engine bay?

Rob.

 

[Kai_1600]

the fuel pump is on the passenger side under the back seats if i recall correctly...didnt someone have theirs out recently?

 

[Tangerine_Dream]

Aaah, thats where it is.

In that case, it isnt that making the odd noise!

Rob.

 

[Tangerine_Dream]

The noise was something to do with the fuel return hose/ pressure regulator. took them both off and had a poke around, made sure there was fuel getting up there, and put them back on. The noise has now stopped, but still won't start.

I don't think there is any spark, so im now thinking maybe coil pack? Or does the standard immobiliser stop it sparking, maybe that could be at fault?

Rob.

 

[suj]

coil pack mate, sounds just like what i had, it's a very quick easy fix mate, and is relatively cheap!

 

[Tangerine_Dream]

Ah wicked, i shall give that a try then, Cheers!!

Rob.

 

[Kai_1600]

if it was the immobiliser then it'd fire up and rev for a sec then the fuel would cut out and it'd die

 

[Tangerine_Dream]

Hurrah!

Coil pack it was, tis up and running once more!

Thanks for the advice guys

Rob.

 

[suj]

its good you got it sorted mate, cheap easy fix wasn't it?

 

[Tangerine_Dream]

aye, certainly was. £31 was all it took!

still not sure what was causing to fuel pipe to twitch and make the noise i heard whenever the fuel pump was working, but its gone now!

 

[suj]

i think that noise was the fuel being pumped (but as there was no spark from the ignition) it just went a little mad lol

but it works now, so it's all good

 

[Juclassic]

aye, certainly was. £31 was all it took!

still not sure what was causing to fuel pipe to twitch and make the noise i heard whenever the fuel pump was working, but its gone now!

lucky git!

years back, when i was stuck in the middle of nowhere, i got absolutely raped by the rac for a new one. gutted.

£31 makes me so sick i wont even say how much i paid for it.

makes me sick! if i could've got a taxi to get one and sorted it myself i would've!

 

[Kai_1600]

lucky git!

years back, when i was stuck in the middle of nowhere, i got absolutely raped by the rac for a new one. gutted.

£31 makes me so sick i wont even say how much i paid for it.

makes me sick! if i could've got a taxi to get one and sorted it myself i would've!

amen to that! The AA shafted me properly, justr shy of a £100

 

[Juclassic]

amen to that! The AA shafted me properly, justr shy of a £100

Ouch. Mine wasn't quite as bad as that; more to the tune of £85, but still an absolute raping, when you consider we both paid over double what Rob did.

You can see how they make their money! *******s!

 

[Tangerine_Dream]

Aaaah, but did you guys get oem parts?

I didnt, Euro car parts special!

Rob.

P.s. Juclassic, you still in swindon or have you managed to escape yet?

 

[suj]

you didn't get OEM? i got OEM from gsf for £32 (i do have a mate who works there so i did get discount, but surely it won't be too much more? maybe £40?)

 

[Tangerine_Dream]

if i remember rightly the oem one was either around the 50 or 60 notes make, 58 rings a bell.

But they didnt have an oem one in stockl, only the cheap replacement one, same as euro car parts, but as my mate was nearer euro at the time, i got him to go there to get it for me.

Rob.

 

[suj]

bloody hell! that expensive ? thats shocking, might have to use my mate more often