Pipercross Panel Filter & Induction Kit

[tiny1138]

Hi Guys

Just wandered if anyone has bought any of the pipercross filters for the 1.4 tsi?

Looking at getting the panel filter to start with and then maybe get the induction kit later.

Link to it is here : http://www.racetechperformance.co.u.../seat-ibiza-mk5-1-4-tsi-06/09-/prod_2145.html

Cheers

Tom

 

[vRSy]

With a panel filter you'd gain more performance if you tried shedding weight by taking a dump before each drive in all honesty. You wil be better off just replacing the OEM filter more often and even then that would be largely a waste of money, as the normal service schedule covers it. IMO after trying it myself in the past its a waste of money

An induction kit is where you will get gains, id just put your money towards that instead

 

[tiny1138]

Lol OK cheers mate. Been told by my local mechanic because the panel filter has a larger surface area than something like the induction kit, I would see some gains as the car is able to 'breathe better'.

Everyone's to their own opinions I suppose and never had an induction kit or panel filter before so that's why I was asking.

Cheers for the heads up mate.

 

[vRSy]

Lol OK cheers mate. Been told by my local mechanic because the panel filter has a larger surface area than something like the induction kit, I would see some gains as the car is able to 'breathe better'.

Everyone's to their own opinions I suppose and never had an induction kit or panel filter before so that's why I was asking.

Cheers for the heads up mate.

If its just a replacement filter it would have the same surface area as the original

 

[aski_2010]

ive got a revo air filter, direct replacement the standard 1 cost the same.. worth thinkin about

 

[tiny1138]

Yeh you're right VRSy, will have a think anyway and I'll look into the REVO as well.

 

[aski_2010]

Its defo worth looking at, gives my car a nice tone when giving it some.. And on the plus side come service time etc u can pull it out, put standard 1 back on ( dont want the, chucking that 1 away)

 

[HAIRWEGO]

Its defo worth looking at, gives my car a nice tone when giving it some.. And on the plus side come service time etc u can pull it out, put standard 1 back on ( dont want the, chucking that 1 away)

is the REVO filter ever lasting ???

 

[aski_2010]

Wel im going 2 make it last as long as possible.. Will b checking it before every servics so that if its "brown bread" I can get another 1.

 

[jc_boc]

Is tyour engine bay lay out the same as ours? What about a FORGE induction kit or the ITG one?

 

[skeat12]

If its just a replacement filter it would have the same surface area as the original

Surely the OEM paper one is more restrictive? Not saying you'll get gains from a pipercross one etc but it has to help somewhere.

 

[Ozone]

I think it is more restrictive as the OEM one has a much thicker filter area and larger surface area of filteration whereas the after market panel filters use a thinner foam so potentialy the air should pass through faster and therfore cooler.

 

[vRSy]

It'll rev slightly freer, mine showed no gains at all on the dyno.

Had my octavia dyno'd stock, then fitted the pipercross panel filter and carbonio ram scoop, noticed no difference other than a nicer sound. had it dynod again just before my stage 1 map and it was identical to before. then went stage 1. Fitted an induction kit and gained 15Hp. Says it all really.

If the panel filter gained you 1Hp,maybe even 3Hp you would pretty much not noitice the difference, and anything you would notice would probably be a placebo anyhow

 

[GazEP3]

Induction kits are a hit and miss science and one that gets mixed reviews. I've had mixed experiences using a number of different designs on different cars. If you're going to get any sort of gain the filter element needs to be shielded from engine heat.

My old 1.4 xsara coupe had a K&N 57i kit on it, made no difference at all asides noise.

1.4 Leon had a pipercross panel filter, made no noticable difference

Mk4 ibiza PD130 had a K&N panel filter with PD160 intake (bigger intake pipe) and made it a bit more responsive.

My M3 had what was known as a 'Dave F' kit which was designed by a combustion engineer, basically a mahoosive K&N cone filter the size of a lamp shade but enclosed in a carefully designed laser cut heat shield which totally shut off the filter area from the engine heat. This made a massive difference to throttle response and much much more than any other I've tried.

My Civic Type R had an AEM short ram induction kit, nice for noise but killed throttle response due to being unshielded from engine heat. It did seem to give more punch further up the revs but traded off acceleration

My conclusion is to opt for a shielded induction kit, something with a large surface area that will only take in cold air from outside the car. Anything else is a waste of money

 

[Tilley1]

My civic had the aem v2, what a noise lol!

 

[GazEP3]

My civic had the aem v2, what a noise lol!

Great noise but that was all lol

 

[adamb87]

ah I miss the step up noise to the vtec. that was immense!!

 

[FR_POWER]

ah i miss the step up noise to the vtec. That was immense!!

vtec kicked in yo!!!!

 

[Stevoz03]

ah I miss the step up noise to the vtec. that was immense!![/QU]

My mate has a 1996 Civic SiR and it sounds unreal.

With regards to the thread I think induction kits work best on remapped cars and personally I wouldnt bother with a replacement filter. That ITG kit looks like the best on the market for our cars.

 

[adamb87]

vtec kicked in yo!!!!

well it did until I crashed it lol