CardiffFR150

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Hi guys,

My brakes squeek a lot when applied, so I decided to go and buy new pads for front and back. Discs where in good condition. The mechanic checked my pads and said they where healthy with plenty life left in them! He also confirmed that my discs where good. Does anyone have any idea of why they are so noisy? Oh yeah, I did ask the mechanic, to which he replied, “all VW group cars have this issue”. Help anyone lol?


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I had the same for a while, tried wetting the brakes then going for a drive and using them hard and it went away! Other than that it will likely just go away after a while..
 
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I had the same for a while, tried wetting the brakes then going for a drive and using them hard and it went away! Other than that it will likely just go away after a while..

Nightmare! To be fair the squeeling does come and go, it’s not constant. God knows what it could be lol


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One source of squealing brakes can be the lack of anti squeak shims on the fitted pads, that should never be an issue if you only ever buy genuine VW Group pads, but unfortunately when you buy aftermarket sometimes the pads are the correct shape, the friction material is correct spec or near enough, but savings have been made by no bothering to provide the exact kits for every different model of cars.

I've only had that once, and that was after fitting ATE pads to the rear brakes of my 2000 VW Passat 4Motion - they fitted well enough but on further inspection I found that they the originals had anti-squeal shims - and these ones did not! These were the first and only pads that I have removed and binned.

Making sure everything has been cleaned up and so serviced maybe every other year, and using brake grease might quieten things down even if your pads don't have anti-squeal shims on them.

Some original pads have a slot cut across them to minimise squealing I think.
 
“all VW group cars have this issue”, what a load of bollocks. The brake on most cars are pretty similar and tend to make noises for the same reasons. Missing anti-rattle shims, too loose or new pads that have not bedded in yet. Usually a clean and a big of copper grease on the back of the pad will fix it but the noise usually goes away on its own anyway.
 
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One source of squealing brakes can be the lack of anti squeak shims on the fitted pads, that should never be an issue if you only ever buy genuine VW Group pads, but unfortunately when you buy aftermarket sometimes the pads are the correct shape, the friction material is correct spec or near enough, but savings have been made by no bothering to provide the exact kits for every different model of cars.

I've only had that once, and that was after fitting ATE pads to the rear brakes of my 2000 VW Passat 4Motion - they fitted well enough but on further inspection I found that they the originals had anti-squeal shims - and these ones did not! These were the first and only pads that I have removed and binned.

Making sure everything has been cleaned up and so serviced maybe every other year, and using brake grease might quieten things down even if your pads don't have anti-squeal shims on them.

Some original pads have a slot cut across them to minimise squealing I think.

Thanks for this information mate


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“all VW group cars have this issue”, what a load of bollocks. The brake on most cars are pretty similar and tend to make noises for the same reasons. Missing anti-rattle shims, too loose or new pads that have not bedded in yet. Usually a clean and a big of copper grease on the back of the pad will fix it but the noise usually goes away on its own anyway.

Cheers mate. Copper grease sounds like a good shout


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Cheers mate. Copper grease sounds like a good shout


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I've weaned myself off Copaslip ie Copper grease as the trade has due to possible issues in extreme cases where it has ended up getting onto ABS components - and after about 40 years my large tin is running low. So, I've moved to "ceramic brake grease" for that job and "aluminium loaded grease" for the alloy wheel seizing/corroding to the hub issue.

But, when my wife's 2015 VW Polo 1.2TSI was handed in under warranty for making funny rubbery noises, which I knew what the source was, VW removed the top gearbox mounting and smothered the rubber isolator with what looked a lot like copper grease - that worked just grand for about a week until I handed it back in and it got a TDI version of the gearbox mounting fitted to it. By reading owner's forums it seemed like VW Group handed out that solution as a first attempt to solve that problem! Also lots of people find that in general use, copper grease has had its day as it dries out and can cause issues, its initial use was as a "furnace bolt grease" to stop furnace bolts seizing, and these furnaces would have been getting frequent maintenance so the drying out would never have been an issue even with extreme heat over a short period.