1.2 TSI super unleaded???

Mike the_cupra

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Always check. I've been in Sainsburys before and their premium (97) has been same price as normal unleaded. At the moment the 10p premium is taking the p*** tbh. Usually its about 5/6p more per litre.
 
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martin j.

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I was told years ago by a garage owner that fuel supplied to company owned stations (Shell/Esso etc)will be a minimum of the octane advertised, so you may get 96 or higher at a standard 95 pump where as at supermarket sites additives in the base fuel will only be sufficient to get to the advertised grade to comply with trade description. He had no axe to grind with me regarding fuel purchase so I accepted this.
 
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KXL

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On the mpg side of things, The lowest mpg only seen 'once' mpg since start was 28mpg, but that was 6-7 miles of super heavy traffic. The highest I've seen pootling on 40-50 mph roads for a fair few miles was 64mpg. Highway London to Manchester little traffic travelling 70mph with 2 long 50mph zones, was 57mpg. 3 cylinder economics perhapsl. Some say that the 1.2 on non-city drives is more economical. Perhaps I missed it, but is the 1.2 the 90 or 105PS variant?
 

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I was told years ago by a garage owner that fuel supplied to company owned stations (Shell/Esso etc)will be a minimum of the octane advertised, so you may get 96 or higher at a standard 95 pump where as at supermarket sites additives in the base fuel will only be sufficient to get to the advertised grade to comply with trade description. He had no axe to grind with me regarding fuel purchase so I accepted this.
From what I've read about, now all fuel supplied to UK service stations now only ever comes from UK refineries in normal times, and that which refinery will mainly depend on location geographical location, plus most if not all refineries are now owned by companies that are only in the refining and wholesale supply of fuels to fuel management companies, who handle all of the supply and servicing of service stations. So all the previous way of doing things, like Esso only supplying only Esso refined fuels into only Esso service stations - etc etc, is now history. The BS and EN etc standards being quoted on the delivery heads in the service stations only pertains to the base spirit, ie prior to the adding of the essential additive packages, there does not seem to be any standards set on the final "juice" being dispensed from the hose into our tanks, which is not right, there should be standards set on that including water content - and there does not seem to be.
So, right now, the octane rating of any fuel being delivered should be the same, or in the same range as a tanker delivering to say Esso, might drop part of their load into an Esso station and the rest into Sainburys station tanks - though working like that would depend on where there was free space.

I too remember tales form the past concerning fuel, ie petrol quality, a Vauxhall workshop manager claimed that their workshop business picked up a few months after Sainburys opened their filling station locally, he found that disgraceful and something supermarket fuel users should consider, maybe things have improved wrt the additive packages used, but cheaper fuel mainly must come from savings somewhere, and the additive package in petrol, like the additive package in lubricating oils, is the obvious place where savings can be made - but where does overkill come in additive wise, ie the point where "extra/better" makes no sense to the average engine being used in the average way - that is the question that probably can't be answered.

Personally I'd rather see supermarket filling stations being branded by the high street recognised fuel suppliers and discount applied to their prices based on amount of money spent in that store, ie a loyalty discount, then I might believe that true fuel savings could be made on same product.

Think of Baked Beans, only a few well known names actually manufacture them, but they end up in many different branded tins - and the contents are similar, ie baked beans, but not the same - why should "other" fuel brands fuel be any different and that difference will be in the additive package which modern engines need to work well.
 
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camelspyyder

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My 1.2 TSI did 6% better average mpg on Shell V-Power Nitro than normal Shell Unleaded - up from 50 to 53.
It felt smoother but no faster, and the cost increase was 9 or 10% so it wasn't economic to run the best fuel year round.
An occasional tankful for the supposed engine cleaning benefits was enough for me.
 
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Catzeye83

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On the mpg side of things, The lowest mpg only seen 'once' mpg since start was 28mpg, but that was 6-7 miles of super heavy traffic. The highest I've seen pootling on 40-50 mph roads for a fair few miles was 64mpg. Highway London to Manchester little traffic travelling 70mph with 2 long 50mph zones, was 57mpg. 3 cylinder economics perhapsl. Some say that the 1.2 on non-city drives is more economical. Perhaps I missed it, but is the 1.2 the 90 or 105PS variant?
Mines the 110 bhp variant m8👍🏻
 

loadbang

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Shell V Power, may notice a little more go in higher revs, standard unleaded it feels at 4,500 rpm power drops. MPG, about the same, I have a 1.2 110PS and get around 55MPG on my daily commute which is 50 minute drive to do 15 miles. I’m yet to test E10.

Manual does state running less than 97 fuel you will get a power reduction.
 

AlR

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To try to help here - In the UK, we only use two fuel grades. 95 RON & 99 RON. There is also a lower grade available 93 RON I think. It is this lower grade which is "standard" unleaded. We don't have this fuel, so our "base level" fuel is already "premium" when compared to the 93 RON stuff. We then have the "Super" 99 RON.
If your vehicle says 95 RON in the fuel cap it is UK standard fuel. Just remember if you travel within Europe you need to use "Premium" as the local standard fuel may be true "standard" at 93 RON - not good for your car which needs 95 RON.
 

CW92

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Running my 1.4 tsi on E10 (which on the nozzle said 95 RON) I didn't notice any drop in the power compared to the super unleaded (Tesco Super 98 RON and Shell V-Power 99 RON) however I did notice it seem to burn a bit quicker (but it could have been me driving with a heavier right foot that day)
 
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