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if its just the ecu thats different cud you not just put in the ecu from the 110 and remap that further?
thats not that easy because swaping the ecu´s whould force you to reconfigure the keys to the new ecu and some other electronic parts and thats not very cheap in a seat dealership.
so my opinion is if you want a everyday car but 90 bhp is a little short you buy the 90 bhp and than you remap it because it´s cheaper than replasing the ecu
best way to find out is to go out and test drive them and see if the diesel takes you over the petrol, as if cost is a problem then the diesel will cost more to buy but will cost less to run and tax and insure
the 90 and 110 tdi are different to the 130 and fr/cupra as the latter use PD technology i beleive which the lesser powered diesels do not. my car is very quick following a remap but not had it rolling roaded or down a strip, but i can still manage over 700miles on a tank if i drive correct for that
as for the noise discussion with a diesel my mate who had a v6 vectra commented my fr sounds nice for a diesel, this was before the exhaust was fitted as well.
the 90 and 110 tdi are different to the 130 and fr/cupra as the latter use PD technology i beleive which the lesser powered diesels do not. my car is very quick following a remap but not had it rolling roaded or down a strip, but i can still manage over 700miles on a tank if i drive correct for that
as for the noise discussion with a diesel my mate who had a v6 vectra commented my fr sounds nice for a diesel, this was before the exhaust was fitted as well.
hanman81
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One thing I can't stand about diesels is that they sound like a van, I don't think I would ever get a diesel
mikeholroyd
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We have both a Leon 1.6 16V petrol, and a Skoda Octavia TDI (same engine as the Leon TDI).
Petrol 1.6 = problems with coil packs, sluggish, and thirsty (last tankful £54 for 300 miles) giving just on 30mpg. Also road tax at £185 per year.
Diesel 1.9 = super reliable, reasonably quick and much more economical (last tankful £53 for 495 miles). Road tax £120 per year.
Loving the Leon, but regretting not holding out for a diesel.
Turbos on the TDI? Yes, some have failed, but when your running costs are nearly twice as much in the petrol, even if you do have a failure at some point long in the future, you've still saved a fortune on your running cost.
Comparison? There is none. Diesel all the way!
Mike
Petrol 1.6 = problems with coil packs, sluggish, and thirsty (last tankful £54 for 300 miles) giving just on 30mpg. Also road tax at £185 per year.
Diesel 1.9 = super reliable, reasonably quick and much more economical (last tankful £53 for 495 miles). Road tax £120 per year.
Loving the Leon, but regretting not holding out for a diesel.
Turbos on the TDI? Yes, some have failed, but when your running costs are nearly twice as much in the petrol, even if you do have a failure at some point long in the future, you've still saved a fortune on your running cost.
Comparison? There is none. Diesel all the way!
Mike
Bear in mind whilst reading that article the salary clarkson gets paid, and his lack of concern with any kind of economy. Yes if money was no issue, of course a petrol equivalent would outfire a diesel engine, but in the realistic world some of us need a compromise. I've got the pd130, and do a lot of motorway / dual carriageway miles, which it's prefect for - more than enough oomph to move me around (especially with planned remap!) plus hitting near 60mpg as an average.
My engine sounds pretty damn quiet to be honest, it's not clattery and you can barely hear it at all even at idle. You keep the engine well looked after and it'll stay like that. I personally love the purr of my engine when it's pushed a little
My old 1.9 ibiza did sound like a van (worse), but it wasn't in the best nick and was a pretty old engine with a hell of a lot of miles before I bought it.
It's all down to personal preference really, but real life does need to factor in somewhere. Opinions can't be taken seriously when someone implies something as sweeping as diesels all sound like vans and are therefore not worth looking at.
End of the day, the guy needs something to suite his needs, ie cheapish, perky and affordable, fun to drive. This in mind, I'd recommend the diesel. The 110 might be hard to find in your budget with low mileage, but then again if it's been well looked after I don't think 110k on the clock would put me off. There are less serviceable parts with the diesel, and a 1.6 petrol in my opinion would struggle to shift a car the size&weight of the leon. You'll get a good return on your mileage and have a better resale value when it comes to it. It'll cope better when it's full of passengers too so you can shift ur mates around campus happily
My engine sounds pretty damn quiet to be honest, it's not clattery and you can barely hear it at all even at idle. You keep the engine well looked after and it'll stay like that. I personally love the purr of my engine when it's pushed a little
My old 1.9 ibiza did sound like a van (worse), but it wasn't in the best nick and was a pretty old engine with a hell of a lot of miles before I bought it.
It's all down to personal preference really, but real life does need to factor in somewhere. Opinions can't be taken seriously when someone implies something as sweeping as diesels all sound like vans and are therefore not worth looking at.
End of the day, the guy needs something to suite his needs, ie cheapish, perky and affordable, fun to drive. This in mind, I'd recommend the diesel. The 110 might be hard to find in your budget with low mileage, but then again if it's been well looked after I don't think 110k on the clock would put me off. There are less serviceable parts with the diesel, and a 1.6 petrol in my opinion would struggle to shift a car the size&weight of the leon. You'll get a good return on your mileage and have a better resale value when it comes to it. It'll cope better when it's full of passengers too so you can shift ur mates around campus happily
I think people are forgetting that petrol and diesel cars are not the same price.
Looking on Autotrader, 2.5k will get you a W reg 110 with 118,000 miles
or
a 52 1.6 with 65,000 miles.
Not only have you have to factor in twice the miles, but also an extra 3 or so years.
Looking on Autotrader, 2.5k will get you a W reg 110 with 118,000 miles
or
a 52 1.6 with 65,000 miles.
Not only have you have to factor in twice the miles, but also an extra 3 or so years.
well i dont think we've made things any clearer for poor RJP!Similar threads
