1.9 tdi fr turbo upgrade

[jim8594]

Changing turbo so whats a upgrade available to me an do I need fmic or remap etc?? Cheers.

 

[Badger]

I'm researching turbo upgrades at the moment so I'll summarise what I've found already:

Hybrid = (17/22 or GT1749VC) Straight swap with a standard setup as this turbo is a GT1749VB (PD150/PD160) with upgraded internals which see max power around 220bhp on stock injectors and turbo pretty much maxed out. Readily available to bolt on power upgrades. For full potential you'll need a FMIC, uprated clutch and remap.

GTB1756VK = (2.7/3.0tdi - third generation VNT) More work involved. Custom Manifold (or welded), downpipe flanges and turbo outlet pipe. Will see around 220-230bhp on stock injectors but turbo delivering more boost longer over rev range. Spools similar to stock turbo so suited to daily driving well. For full potential you'll need a FMIC, uprated clutch and remap.

GTB2260VK = Same work as the GTB1756VK with install, however will see 280-300bhp with Firad 80%+ Noozles etc... This route isn't cheap and you'll need SMF as DMF won't last long and LSD to keep the power on the ground. Also spool times are a little longer so power range is higher on the rev range. For full potential you'll need a FMIC, uprated clutch, SMF, injectors and remap.

GTB2056VKLR - (Ballbearing Water Coooled - Mercedes) Best compromise for both spool and boost. Sits between GTB2260 and GTB1756VK but rare to get hold of with vacuum conversion.

 

[mrknox1994]

Would like to know the routes you both take! I emailed dark side about their gtb2260vk kit and for everything they recommend it was £6000 for around 260 which I thought was dear to say the least! so a hybrid 17/22 will bolt on nothing else required?

 

[posterboy]

Great reply, can the PD160 turbo be sent away to be hybrid-ised

 

[Badger]

Yes, but it must be in good condition, no play on shafts etc...

 

[jim8594]

Great reply, can the PD160 turbo be sent away to be hybrid-ised

Ive got. pd150 garrett tubo bieng delivered tommorow for 460 quid

 

[IBIZA_W1LL]

Ive got. pd150 garrett tubo bieng delivered tommorow for 460 quid

Where did you buy this from if you dont mind me asking?

 

[jim8594]

Where did you buy this from if you dont mind me asking?

Turbo centre in west Yorkshire 460 brand new garrett overnight delivery for tommorow...comes with manifold bolts straight on and obviously is ready for a remap

 

[IBIZA_W1LL]

Interesting, they offered me 465 + Vat.... Ill give them a ring back tomorrow then!

 

[The Seer]

Would like to know the routes you both take! I emailed dark side about their gtb2260vk kit and for everything they recommend it was £6000 for around 260 which I thought was dear to say the least! so a hybrid 17/22 will bolt on nothing else required?

Six grand?!?! I'm guessing this included a fully forged engine as part of the price??

 

[The Seer]

Interesting, they offered me 465 + Vat.... Ill give them a ring back tomorrow then!

Have a look eBay. There's a chap on there selling turbos for VAG TDi s and so far his reputation is good. For around 500 quid, a PD 160 1749 turbo is available.

 

[Badger]

If you email him about getting a turbo not through eBay, the price is better than that!

 

[mrknox1994]

No no internals, please tell me everyone is shocked with the price!

 

[Badger]

That's a lot for only 260bhp!

I hope that included a new clutch, flywheel, exhaust, FMIC with hard pipe kit, new gtb2260 turbo, MAP sensor, remap, back massage and Vaseline for the bill!

I'm looking at £1500 for a self build for a GTB1756VK which will achieve about 220-230bhp

 

[Lowe]

It's hard to judge without knowing what's included. It might not have been a serious quote either...

 

[IBIZA_W1LL]

Does anybody have a link to a guide anywhere for changing the turbo? Really want to go about it myself but dont dare without a guide. had a search but cant find one

 

[mrknox1994]

Yeah that's everything that you have said! And injectors, LSD, manifold! still a lorry load of cash like!

 

[BrettBlade]

Sounds like 260bhp would be a conservative estimate for that though, and the LSD would really help get that power down onto the road! You're very right though, you'd need money to throw away to be able justify that sort of cash!