2.0 170 - any tuning limitations apart from DPF ?

[WW_VRS]

No probs - just wish they'd sell one. There was another manufacturer that does a similar bit of gear for petrols (turbo and non-turbo) but again, not derv, due to development cost and the very much different systems used. Real shame

 

[Niall]

The TFSI has a slightly different system, it cuts the fuelling for say 5ms per cilinder when the wheels slip. Thus causing the engine not to lose speed and making it able to go full bore when traction is available again.

 

[STOCKY]

Seems Superchips have released a 170 map, just got this email from them.

Dear Sir

Thank you for the interest shown in Superchips.

Superchips reprogramme the ignition , boost and fuelling maps of the car's on-board computer (Electronic Control Unit), resulting in:

· Increased torque, or pulling power, which reduces the need for gear changing.

· Increased power, smoother performance and better response (for example when overtaking)

· The potential for greater fuel economy, when driven carefully.


When fitted with a Superchip, your Seat Leon 2.0 PD 170 bhp would gain up to 27 bhp and an increase of up to 30% in torque (detailed power and torque curves are included, if available for example purposes).

The modification is not offered as a Bluefin modification.

The car's fuelling is carefully managed to optimise fuelling and retain the long term reliability of the engine. For your peace of mind, a Superchips warranty is included - at no additional cost - for vehicles that are still covered by the original manufacturer's warranty.

Our approved agents within your area can be viewed on www.superchips.co.uk , the modification costs £599* including installation and VAT. (*UK Price , subject to change. Regional price variations on installation may apply).

If you require any further information or assistance, please do not hesitate to call.

Yours truly

 

[basstard]

27hp!! Jesus! That's what I gained on my 110!!

Superchips reprogramme the ignition , boost and fuelling maps

Ignition??

 

[k4ith]

so the fire brigade haven't been called to Superchips HQ lately then.Is this the start of comp's releasing their software, think thats 3 now.

 

[Niall]

Below film of JD TFSi traction control in action

http://www.wilcoos.nl/seatonline/Seat Leon II FR VdV Edition.wmv

 

[erminio]

Sorry just to say what the power controller does roughly -

Unlike traction control which cuts engine power, the power controller restricts the amount of torque delivered to a certain limit per gear, and it has different settings for dry/wet/etc (5 I think but I read it a while back today).

So you get ability to drop your foot to the floor in every gear and get little to no wheelspin (max traction). Annoyingly I don't think one exists for dervs at this stage, which is a proper shame as that's the one thing that would seriously allow me to accelerate on the limit without having to turn off the ESP.

The powercontroller also restricts the boost per gear.
I have been told that for example the boost in first gear is around 0,9bar (offcourse on the big IHI twinscroll turbo), in second gear around 1,1bar and in third gear full boost around 1,7bar.

JD also changes the "Traction Control System" in a way that it doesn't came in so strong when you start to spin your wheels. Praktically this mean that when you accellerate to hard the traction control come in very gently and you will keep on accelerating fine. Standard it will come in much harder and you will be losing lots of speed while accelerating.

Here is a example of my Leon FR I ..., you notice that the TCS light is flashing but the car keeps accellerating hard
http://webdisk.planet.nl/ramon231/publiek/album/0-200.wmv

 

[WW_VRS]

Sounds like a good system to me Checked out the vids too

 

[erminio]

Sounds like a good system to me Checked out the vids too

And as you can see on the vid, the rev limiter goes up 500rpm untill max 7000rpm, which is nice in the lower gears

 

[WW_VRS]

If anyone knows about a system like that available for a turbodiesel-powered car please do let me know

I've got a Quaife ATB and reasonable tyres I reckon, and with ESP not being as annoying as 'just' ASR, it isn't all that bad, but 1st gear is just to get it to a nice stage for 2nd gear, I dont tend to even use the accelerator in 1st, 2nd I've got to be careful, 3rd I need to be careful in the wet, otherwise it's good.

But there is more power to come, so it will get more tricky every time

Must admit seeing that system in action is very impressive, and it seems so very smooth in how it works too

 

[devonmikeyboy]

If anyone knows about a system like that available for a turbodiesel-powered car please do let me know

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Simon Cooper from centralvwaudi is fitting a apexi boost controller to his 2.0 PD drag car. Sound like the same sort of thing to me.

Post 82
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=97793&page=6

 

[WW_VRS]

Thanks Mike

 

[shadowmaker]

Simon Cooper from centralvwaudi is fitting a apexi boost controller to his 2.0 PD drag car. Sound like the same sort of thing to me.

Post 82
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=97793&page=6

I tried that years ago with no success as it is way too slow to react with vnt boost accumulation. Or maybe I wasn't that good with setupping that.

I still use it as a very expensive boost gauge.

Now I have custom made electronic controller and it works quite nicely. No adjusments between gears, but with this big vnt, there's no time for boost accumulation with 1st and 2nd.

Tried 60-120kmh yesterday, but as my 3rd gear is good for only 117kmh, my 60-117kmh was 5,2s and 60-120kmh 6,2s. 100-150kmh with 4th gear was 7,2s. Have to keep in mind that the car weights 2000kg and has a graceful shape of a brick.

BTW, 80-117kmh 3,2s in 3rd

 

[erminio]

Well, today a went for a standard chip, because the exhaust will take at least 6 weeks to arrive ..., that's to long for me to drive in standard mode

I notice much more torque from lower revs and more power in the upper revs

Don't now the figures now, but don't need to know because over 6 weeks the software will be made custom for the exhaust without the DRF.

On the way back home i went through Germany for a topspeed test..., 222km/h on the GPS and 230km/h on the tacho with only 4500km on the car .., so more to come

 

[basstard]

Sorry to hijack the thread a bit,,, what gps do you use to test the speed and how do you do?

 

[erminio]

Sorry to hijack the thread a bit,,, what gps do you use to test the speed and how do you do?

I used the standaard GPS system which is availeble on the TomTom navigation system. They told me when you have signal from 5 satelites they speed notation is very accurate

 

[basstard]

I got the tomtom but where's the speed indication??

 

[erminio]

I got the tomtom but where's the speed indication??

You can activate it somewere under settings and then it will be continue visible on your display

 

[basstard]

thx

 

[erminio]

thx

The one i got can also be set to miles/hour