2019 Xcellence Lux ST tracking

[BradleyH]

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

I know this topic has been looked into with the older Ibiza's and Leon's but I can't seem to find any for the MK3 / MK3.5 so if you know different feel free to link in this thread.
Yesterday I had some Bridgestone Turanza 6's put on the car as the old ones were T001's which I suspect came with the car and were getting a little bit dry rotted.
As I always do I had the tracking done, requested for 4 wheel alignment as this model has independent rear suspension, I have come to learn with a bit of research for what ever reason Seat/VAG decided they would have no camber adjustment on the front of the car.
So my passenger front camber is out by -1°20 after adjustment correcting the toe on the same wheel, god knows how or why, it is certainly nothing from my doing.
I do know this probably means I need camber bolts to sort this out and get it closer to the acceptable value.
I can't seem to find any specific to the MK3.5 Leon Estate so having a quick word with my boss who is a car nerd too he taught me that all I really need to know is the size of the wishbone bolt, I am just wondering if anyone would be privy to this information, I do know that a healthy amount of negative camber isn't bad but this isn't a race car, all I want from it is a compliant workhorse so relatively close to acceptable spec is my goal.
I DO NOT want to spend £££'s on adjustable camber top mount plates or even the fixed camber top mount plates, I'd half be tempted by a powerflex camber adjustable wishbone bush but +/- 0.5 may not be enough adjustment to completely fix this slight issue.
Powerflex do sell camber bolts in varying sizes and they can be adjusted+/- 1.75 so personally I'd rather go that route as again this isn't a race car and doesn't need tones of modifications.

Any help is appreciated as usual.
Best regards
Brad

 

[SuperV8]

The official way is to slacken the bolts & move/tweak the subframe to effect the camber.
Your camber values look to be min and slightly over max - so tweaking it one way should improve this.
You can also get "MQB subframe alignment kits."

 

[BradleyH]

The official way is to slacken the bolts & move/tweak the subframe to effect the camber.
Your camber values look to be min and slightly over max - so tweaking it one way should improve this.
You can also get "MQB subframe alignment kits."

I was looking forward to you commenting SuperV8!
I have also heard that the subframe can be moved to correct it but I did read that it is a small adjustment, so my question is do you think that alone would be enough to correct the values shown?
I’ll have a look into the MQB subframe alignment kit too when I get a minute.
Last question I have on the subframe fix for now is how difficult is it for that to be done so I can roughly gauge how much that is going to cost me?

 

[nd-photo.nl]

My experience is that a shop is usually able to tell you why things are off, didnt the shop tell you anything?

 

[BradleyH]

Unfortunately no,

they usually do but I think it is because of it was close to closing time so it was a mad dash to pay and leave, I know that isn’t good but I do vouch for them and they’re usually tip top and I never have an issue with them

 

[SuperV8]

I was looking forward to you commenting SuperV8!
I have also heard that the subframe can be moved to correct it but I did read that it is a small adjustment, so my question is do you think that alone would be enough to correct the values shown?
I’ll have a look into the MQB subframe alignment kit too when I get a minute.
Last question I have on the subframe fix for now is how difficult is it for that to be done so I can roughly gauge how much that is going to cost me?

It's not technically difficult "in theory" - slacken off subframe bolts, move subframe - and re-check geometry, but I suspect is beyond what a usual tyre shop would consider doing? You would need to ask them if they can do it?

I would expect this to correct your camber.

Shouldn't generally need doing unless the subframe has been disturbed from previous work or a bump? any one likely dropped the subframe in the past? for ARB bushes? or wishbones?

From the workshop manual: