hi rich thanks for the reply, ive just sorted it, its a seprate fuse for the wipers, that's under the bonnet. I went to the fusebox under the dash and went to every empty space in the fuse box with one fuse and tried the washers till I got it, don't ask what number it is, I don't know how you are supposed to see them, I had a magnifying glass on them and still couldn't see the numbers, but all sorted now, oh and the 2006 version of the manual is totally different to 2005, thanks again.