Anyone else bored by their cupra?

[Peller]

Tuning box is a good option but you need to consider this:

Cupra - Max torque from 1750-5600 rpm. 184 - Max torque from 1750-3250 rpm. Your argument that the torque is available from lower down in the rev range is plain wrong. They are the same and the Cupra has an enormous gearing advantage and an enormous horsepower advantage higher up the rev range. It's simply a faster car.

I totally agree with you but for daily driving I think the torque in a car is the overriding factor in daily driving (slip road blasting, overtaking etc. Please don't get me wrong as I rate the Cupra as a very, very fast car but too much for daily use for me personally. I found the FR so much easier to get to speed compared to revving the Cupra hard. I should just give in to the C63 AMG!

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[JACUPRA280]

I totally agree with you but for daily driving I think the torque in a car is the overriding factor in daily driving (slip road blasting, overtaking etc. Please don't get me wrong as I rate the Cupra as a very, very fast car but too much for daily use for me personally. I found the FR so much easier to get to speed compared to revving the Cupra hard. I should just give in to the C63 AMG!

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Put your car on a rolling road. I think you'll find it's pushing out close to 290 lb ft as standard. Mine was!

And as for revving - so you'd rather change gear more frequently!?

 

[AndrewJB]

I haven't read the whole thread but to be fair when I was driving my Stage 2 Cupra everyday I got bored of it.

Now I have a MK2 Golf TDI I use everyday, the Cupra love is back.

 

[bega]

Its normal that people get bored of all things in life,not only a car.

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[philmots]

Interesting thread. I can't fault my Cupra 290. You guys who are complaining about grunt must have something wrong with your cars?? I've driven diesel torque monsters like merc 350d, Audi 3.0 tdi and BMW 125d, 330d and most recently a 335d xdrive (boring as ****)but I actually think the Cupra has similar low down shove characteristics to a powerful turbo diesel or v6 petrol engine, BUT also has serious pace over 4K rpm. Petrol V8 Has both!

You guys complaining must be driving in the wrong gear or your car is knackered or maybe need decent front tyres.

I think the only car I've driven with similar pace is an e39 M5 with 400 Bhp and m140i (shite handling though)

For comparison, 335d allegedly 0-60 in 4.8, Cupra FWD 5.7. If you're into top trumps get the 335d for the traffic light Grand Prix. But take the 335d out back to back with the Cupra and it's a different story. At any speed over 30 where the Cupra has traction, the Cupra gathers speed quicker than the diesel, and also feels quite a bit quicker. Hardly scientific but I was very surprised.

Don't drive the Cupra like a diesel, use the rev range and I think you might fall in love again; If not get an old E63 AMG and throw it sideways.

Just my 2pence worth

Just this...

My mate has the xdrive 335d and we found exactly the same thing, even in the wet.

I'm very surprised how well my Cupra 300 goes, I had a 510hp XFR before this and under 100mph it genuinely doesn't feel much slower. There's about half a tonne between them though!

 

[Kraken]

I think usable power is a big thing in this whole conversation. In my FR, my usable power is almost everywhere i want, and need it to be, which makes it hella fun on the road. I smile every time I put my foot down and fly past cars previously, i wasn't always certain I could take (all those billions of different specced BMWs, Audis and VWs) and it's always consistent, I know exactly where, when, and how to get the most out of it and in the right conditions.

New/better quality tyres, great help. KN filter and revo turbo muffler delete, great help for more turbo/intake noise and free flowing air (and the odd extra hp or 2). Dog Bone mount insert (when it was in lol, new one coming), absolutely peaking at the edge of the cars limits, with more grip, all but elimated wheel hop and very timid if there is any in the rain (but always gets the power down much much sharper), engine sound, responsiveness, handling, launches all consistent and absolutely accurate to what I want out of it, feels light (coz it is), nippy, and just f*cking wants to bell it everywhere when it's fully warmed up!

Short of my future remap which will be modest at stage 1, it feels at it's peak for me for being exciting and as thrilling 1 year on as it did the first few weeks I had it. So hopefully, will continue to be for many more months ahead all because of that usable, reactive energy it emits each time I drive it .

 

[Kane7]

Won't tune a cupra but will tune a 184 DSG how many of us that have tuned there cupra have ever been refused for warranty work excluding clutches ??




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[JACUPRA280]

Won't tune a cupra but will tune a 184 DSG how many of us that have tuned there cupra have ever been refused for warranty work excluding clutches ??




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You can tune a Cupra, but you can't tuna fish.

I'll let myself out

 

[Kane7]

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[nicknameless]

Interesting the direction of travel of the thread. Newton metres and HP.

The cupra and many other variants of such on the market are overpowered for the road. Talk of using the rev range in the Cupra leaves you with 2 gears for legality (and safety). Once you have blatted off a roundabout at warp speed and got used to using the diff to drag you at improbable pace (and the usual understeer territory for FWD) many a time then there are few tricks left in the pony.

We all get our driving pleasures in different ways and at different times. The cupra is quick, comfortable and an excellent car. It is a nice drive, but for me not an exciting one.

You will think I am taking the proverbial if I say that I have more fun in a lupo sport that I have as a runaround town type of car (100 bhp).

Now back to newton and remaps.

P.s. edit. I am not trolling on a cupra forum but of course it's a difficult point to make stick on one!!

 

[JACUPRA280]

Interesting the direction of travel of the thread. Newton metres and HP.

The cupra and many other variants of such on the market are overpowered for the road. Talk of using the rev range in the Cupra leaves you with 2 gears for legality (and safety). Once you have blatted off a roundabout at warp speed and got used to using the diff to drag you at improbable pace (and the usual understeer territory for FWD) many a time then there are few tricks left in the pony.

We all get our driving pleasures in different ways and at different times. The cupra is quick, comfortable and an excellent car. It is a nice drive, but for me not an exciting one.

You will think I am taking the proverbial if I say that I have more fun in a lupo sport that I have as a runaround town type of car (100 bhp).

Now back to newton and remaps.

P.s. edit. I am not trolling on a cupra forum but of course it's a difficult point to make stick on one!!

No no, I get your point.

My previous car was a VW Polo 1.2 TSI. It had 105PS but was remapped to 130PS. I also had it lowered on Eibach springs with Michelin PSS tyres. I loved that car - and had four usable gears for legal speeds. I miss it now. I had so much fun in it - as much as my Cupra.

I get what you mean about usable power. On a country road, I can easily burn past 100mph without thinking on a straight. That's too fast. BUT, getting to that 100mph is an absolute riot.

 

[NotApplicable]

I had an E30 BMW 320i as a company car. Then, it went to the E36 variant. The E36 was described as the "Drivers Car", so , I thought, "Great, I'll have one of those". What a dull car in comparison.
Yes, the E30 was tail-happy, but it was so much more engaging for the driver. The E36 was a point and go car that any dipstick could drive and stay on the road.

So, I get the point. Driver engagement is a completely different kettle of (tuna) fish

And, as I may have posted before, with a quick variant of a car, you get only seconds of thrill before you are hard up behind some slow bugger on our UK congested roads.

 

[sheikhsteve]

Mmm - maybe? There is absolutely no modulation in the standard cupra brakes compared to the 4 pot brembos on the clio (IMO). I find them very on/off. Does not inspire confidence when all you want to do is scrub a little speed. I would not chuck the cupra into a corner like the clio either - it is heavy and lardy in comparison - again IMO. The cupra is much more about speed out of the corner. The 19s really don't help it either.

Do you enjoy the cupra more?

Are you talking about the Leon? I assume so. You are not comparing like for like. The Clio is a much smaller car and is track focused. The appeal of he Leon is that it is fast, but also manageable on a day to day basis. You can't have both I think. Although, I am very happy with my Ibiza Cupra ;-) It is small, light, fast and great fun!

 

[thedigitalage]

Very interesting thread. I can sometimes see what you mean.

I've had mine 3 years and decided to keep it rather than changing, HOWEVER, it's use has changed! Instead of being the long distance "family car", it's now weekends and the odd trip to see a client if the wife's at work. 10k miles p.a. is now around 5k p.a.

Each time I get in it, it feels different and more exciting than driving it everyday. The other car is the 140bhp ST-line, so you still get that moments when you realise how much quicker it is.

I don't think more power is the answer if you get bored of a car... it's the overall car that must be boring

 

[Kane7]

In the first year of owning my cupra I achieved 11k miles, which none where for work. Most of them spent on country roads in wales or exploring up north

I went through 2 sets of front tyres a full set of brake pads and had an average consumption of 21-23mpg. I drove the car how it should of been driven. It was a joy.

The only negative from it, and it's only because of modern materials and build quality is going 100 feels like your doing 50. But that still doesn't take away what doing 180 feels like In one




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[Jarre]

I've had my 290 7 months and would happily let it go now. What for I don't know. My finance wouldn't be in a position that I could do anything with it anyway, but as soon as it's level I will be selling it.

I like the car but don't love it. It's fast, yes, but it's lacking something.

I'd genuinely rather have my old edition 30 back.

 

[kazand]

I've had my 290 7 months and would happily let it go now. What for I don't know. My finance wouldn't be in a position that I could do anything with it anyway, but as soon as it's level I will be selling it.

I like the car but don't love it. It's fast, yes, but it's lacking something.

I'd genuinely rather have my old edition 30 back.

Weird isn't it. I've had 2. A 280 and the current 290. Yet ask me to make a choice of either of those or my old R 265 then I'd take that. Every time. Yes, it had its faults, and the MK3 is certainly quicker A to B, but for an engaging drive that kept you on the edge ( and sweating like fk sometimes) the MK2 has it. As I've said before, the R will rip your arm off and beat you to death with the wet end. The MK3 would do the same, but say please, thank you and use a napkin.

 

[Jarre]

Weird isn't it. I've had 2. A 280 and the current 290. Yet ask me to make a choice of either of those or my old R 265 then I'd take that. Every time. Yes, it had its faults, and the MK3 is certainly quicker A to B, but for an engaging drive that kept you on the edge ( and sweating like fk sometimes) the MK2 has it. As I've said before, the R will rip your arm off and beat you to death with the wet end. The MK3 would do the same, but say please, thank you and use a napkin.

Yeah I'd go with that. The edition 30 was just a fast golf GTI but it felt something special. The Leon doesn't really.

I've just done 2275 miles around Europe in it (as far as Venice) and while it did the job very well, and comfortably, I haven't come back in love with the car. I've always changed my cars often, the longest I've had one was my cr170 mk2 which was 18 months, but I would still have had my edition 30 now if it wasn't for a house deposit. Looking back I should've took out a bank loan for the car.

But anyway... I'm not bored of it but I'm not in love. I've no idea what I get next, whether it's an SUV like SQ5, or something like a Porsche Cayman or older 911, or a big petrol saloon like an XFR. But what I do know is that it won't be another Leon Cupra.

 

[Cuprobbie]

I wouldn't like to say that I'm 'bored' with my Cupra, but I think I've driven cars which are more 'fun'.

The Cupra is a brilliant car and is by far the most powerful car I've driven in almost 50 years of car ownership.

However, I feel that I've had more enjoyment in driving a rear wheel drive, 2 seat convertible with approximately half the power of the Cupra.

I still enjoy the Cupra and I'm in no real rush to change, in fact I'm not sure what I would replace it with.

 

[Major Tom]

TLDR

Since letting the cupra in for service I took out the tune box, and yes it's a good but boring car. Got it back and after 2 weeks mounted the box again - what a f-n difference!