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Poko

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Nov 18, 2009
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As the title says, I am going to start a small thread on my APR stage 4 / motorsport build.

I am located in Israel and my car is a 2009 Seat Leon cupra

Here is the car:
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The car was purchased new in Dec 2009 and when it had 300 miles on the clock was tuned to APR stage 1 and 1000 miles later to Stage 2+.
Although that supplied plenty of power, I had a burning need to get more.

I have read every thread on every forum regarding BT build and talked to plenty of suppliers and BT owners in order to get to a decision.

I use this car as a DD as well as track it, so my main consideration was power delivery over just pure numbers.

to make a long story short , I have decided to go with the Apr stage 3 route , but after many talks with the amazing guys at APR and their great distributer as well as a visit in APR HQ in Alabama I have changed my mind and we are now going on an all out stage 4 build.

My engine was taken out of the car and shipped to APR where it is now being completed and in the next few days will be shipped back to me.

My car is starting the prep work next week (many many items) and during October APR engineers and head Tech are flying over to Israel to get the engine installed.

In this thread I will follow the engine build, car prep and final result and will discuss for the first time exactly what a stage 4 is made of.
Hope it will make an interesting read, more updates soon.

Side note: Israeli readers please do not Link or Re-post this to any forums in Israel or your facebook pages.
 
Looks interesting.

Isn't you car the 'project black mamba' you started a thread on a while back

The one resprayed in lamborghini matt black?

Also watching with interest, be nice to see how the build goes and what it is made of. Especially keen to know what you do to get that power to the tarmac (ie useable power) not just spinning like crazy and having to be careful in the corners.

I've yet to do any handling mods to mine but even at stage 1 it spins from rest and am not confident in corners or high speeds so stage 4!!
 
Same Project as i started a while back. but since i ditched that thread and it changed dramatically , i re-opened it.

as for traction, that's an issue, but you will find some nice ideas up ahead :)

nothing in this car was overlooked , many interesting things to come.
 
Ok, before I start into the stage 4 build, just a short update of what's already on the car
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Obviously I had the entire stg 2+ hardware, but the only thing that is going to stay is the APR HPFP
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As for suspension, the car currently has a KW clubsport kit which is going to stay of-course.

At the current setup it is too stiff for our roads and in order to get the Damping/Rebound right new springs are currently on their way from KW in Germany.

As for anti roll Bars, I have both a set of APR as well as KW. Both of which are very different in strength and approach (KW is thicker up front compared to rear). I am not certain which I will use in the end, but I am leaning towards the APR set. I will make a final decision when the car is all set up

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Some Pics:
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Gonna keep a close eye on this !!
It should be stickied somewhere.

Behatslacha :)
 
This should bring APR back into the market place.

Doubt it. I'd hate to think how much Stage 4 has cost this chap. He seems to be very much an APR loyalist... fair play, usually good stuff but extortionate in almost all cases.

You can't really get past the value cost in my eyes. You can have a full V-Banded (interchangeable turbo) GT3071R setup for a little under £2100 from ATP, when compared to APR's £4350 for a GT2871R setup. Ok so the APR kit comes with a few extras like injectors and a few other bits and bobs, but certainly not £2250 worth (yeh you could have two ATP kits AND HAVE CHANGE for the cost of APR!). You still need to buy a fuel pump, an intercooler and internals separately for both kits.

If I were talking that some of money at that sum of money I'd be looking at a BSH - Work Of Art for sure. Looks awesome!

BTW the differences between APR Stage 3 and Stage 4 are:
Arin@APR said:
This guy essentially reinforced the bottom with rods/pistons, ran cams we specced and cleaned up the head a bit. We then calibrated the car for his modifications. :)
 
Good luck with the build Poko, it's going to be interesting following it. Looking forward to the progress.

Get plenty more picture's up, as and when you can.