So I've recently test driven both a VW Golf R and a Leon Cupra 290 Black with DSG boxes, overall I would actually say I preferred the Cupra, however the one thing I didn't like was the lack of an auto hold button on the Seat like there is on the Golf. When I asked the dealer about it he said it didn't have it (though he didn't really seem to know much about the car when I asked), however I find it strange the VW would have it and the Seat wouldn't, given they are pretty much the same car otherwise. Does the Cupra really not have this feature or was it just not turned on for my test drive?
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I'd swear my manual car has it. Not sure how it operates but I think it has something to do with Auto stop/start button! I may be talking through my backside but it's definitely there.
Yes definitely there! Just did a search on "Auto hold" . Stops the car from rolling backwards only!
Ah that might be why I'm confused then, on the Golf it holds the brakes so it also stops the car creeping forward when stopped at a set of lights if still in drive.
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You are describing a feature of an electronic parking brake, what the Leon has is hill hold i.e. the brake will still be engaged for a couple of seconds after removing your foot off the brake if the car detects that the car is on an incline to prevent it from rolling backwards.
The Leon will never have auto hold while it still has a manual handbrake, an electronic parking brake removes the standard handbrake for a button or switch.
I test drove a Merc A Class with auto hold once and I agree its a feature I would really like on the Leon.
The Leon will never have auto hold while it still has a manual handbrake, an electronic parking brake removes the standard handbrake for a button or switch.
I test drove a Merc A Class with auto hold once and I agree its a feature I would really like on the Leon.
I totally understand what you think trying to say. My work a vw sharan as a company vehicle and that has a electronic parking brake and an extra button saying "auto hold" which if turned on stops the car from moving when stopped and you release the brakes. Whereas the leons have "Hill hold" which will hold you for around 5 seconds when your car is on an incline.
In all fairness I don't really like the auto hold in the VW. It doesn't feel natural!
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In all fairness I don't really like the auto hold in the VW. It doesn't feel natural!
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I'm sure someone has said that an electric handbrake will be on the facelift Leon out in the next year or so
I'd honestly take a manual handbrake over an automatic one every day of the week, it doesn't even remotely get in the way of the armrest so I'm not sure of the advantage. Just one thing I've noticed, on a completely flat surface, if I keep the brake depressed for longer than around 10 seconds, hill hold seems to kick in, the car will stay completely still for a few seconds unless you press the throttle, was this a MY16 update or did a Golf R have a quiet word with my Cupra and teach it a trick? Edited to add: I don't think it's a faulty Hill hold as it takes so long to kick in, never under 5 seconds.
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Autohold on the Golf will hold the car indefinitely where as the hill hold will only hold it for a matter of seconds. Autohold also works regardless of whether the car is facing up hill, down hill or even on a flat where it wouldn't roll anyway. Those are the main differences between auto and hill holds.
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Hi, My previous car was an A-Class Merc and of all the features the one I miss is the electric parking brake and hold.
The electric parking brake button was used once only to release after first starting, then never touched again. Pull up to traffic lights/give way etc., and a firmer push on the footbrake engaged a HOLD that remains until you press the accelerator - or if you shut off the ignition (or open the door) the full parking brake re-engaged. So no need to hold your foot on the brake to prevent creep.
As the HOLD was engaged by the firmer push only, a more normal 2 or 3 second delay from releasing the brakes prevented the car rolling back was also employed when the car was not on level ground - this last is present on my LeonST now. I have found however that unless you factor it in you can cause quite a lurch as you've given the car more throttle than needed to get yourself under way. Practice I guess!!
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The electric parking brake button was used once only to release after first starting, then never touched again. Pull up to traffic lights/give way etc., and a firmer push on the footbrake engaged a HOLD that remains until you press the accelerator - or if you shut off the ignition (or open the door) the full parking brake re-engaged. So no need to hold your foot on the brake to prevent creep.
As the HOLD was engaged by the firmer push only, a more normal 2 or 3 second delay from releasing the brakes prevented the car rolling back was also employed when the car was not on level ground - this last is present on my LeonST now. I have found however that unless you factor it in you can cause quite a lurch as you've given the car more throttle than needed to get yourself under way. Practice I guess!!
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