Dension ice>Link Plus - Ibiza MkIII

Chester

MPG racer
Mar 25, 2002
440
43
Peterborough
Welcome to the easy guide to fitting a Dension ice-Link Plus to an Ibiza MkIII with standard Seat issue RDS radio. The purpose is to connect newly acquired iPod Photo 30Gb to the existing ICE and gain almost instant access to the entire CD collection. Why should I want to do this you ask? Because I'm a bike riding gadget mad long-haired bass player who desires lots of tunes with his torque!


Tools and bits you will need for this job:
  • Floor mat (saves your knees getting dirty or knackered)
  • A piece of cloth (all will be revealed later, hu hum)
  • Er, a screwdriver, cross-head infact. I like big long ones, but if you're like me, you'll need a short one too!
  • A cordless* drill and bits (about 4/5mm, 7/8mm and a 10mm) *Optional
  • Pin punch and hammer
  • Round file
  • 10mm socket and rachet
  • A small piece of foam, say about 10/12cm wide
  • Insulation tape
  • Long cable tie
  • Vaccum cleaner

The best bit of advice is this install is not rocket science but if rushed, it will rattle, may not work, and worse still crack your dash. So make sure you've got plenty of time on your hands and pace yourself. Read this guide before you start.

OK firstly, clear the front dash and foot wells and the glove box so there's access and plenty of space. We need to remove the two screws underneath the centre console with the short cross-head screwdriver. Get both the front seats nice and far back and stick the gearbox in forth (the car isn't started, is it?! :hide: ). Best accessed from kneeling outside the car, look underneath the air direction control and you'll see them just a cm or so inset from the edge. A good place to screws safe is the ash tray. Now very gently using your hands only, prise away the bottom of the plastic trim and gradually ease away closer to the top. The top will pivot slightly and should pop out with some gentle but firm force. Careful, that's an LCD panel and ribbon cable attached to that. Once removed, vertically remove the ribbon cable from the radio.

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Get your cloth and cover the lower centre console to stop it getting scratched. Remove the four screws holding in the radio. Then the radio will simply pull out. Let it dangle in front of the dash. Open the glove box lid fully. On the right-hand side, decide where you want your hole. I would suggest the middle would be a good target. Get hammer and pin punch to start the hole (to prevent drill slip). Use very light pressure with a small bit to create the hole. This is thin plastic and so you don't want to go too mad behind there or it will crack! Then a slightly bigger bit and then to the 10mm. The best idea is to get the drill close and spin up before the bit's in the hole. That way you will be drilling instead of turning the bit into the hole. File down to remove plastic burs and vaccum the mess up.

Remove the screw at the back of the glove box and the 3 at the top. The whole box will come out leaving the lid in place. Take the uninsulated black earth wire of the Dension ice>Link Plus and feed it from behind the centre console to the passenger-side airbag. Using the 10mm socket and rachet, undo a nut slightly and loop the cable underneath, then retighten. From earth continuity tests I performed, this was the best earth in the vicinity. Useful info if you don't have a multimeter. ;)

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Feed the ice>Link dock cable through the hole in the glove box and then behind the centre console, remembering the dock connector is to lie in the glove box! Now the box can be refitted. Disconnect the top ISO plug from the radio (the largest one) and connect the Dension ISO connector. Connect the Dension ISO socket to the ISO plug you just removed. Now connect the ice>Link Plus module to the Dension loom. If it gets warm, this is perfectly normal. Wrap the foam around the ice>Link Plus and the ISO connection and secure with insulation tape; leave plenty of cable to allow travel up the left side of the radio.

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On the left-hand side of the centre console, you will see a hole. Put the cable tie through it and loop round the foam to hold loosely in place on the left side, as you slide the radio back into place. If the radio resists to fit back properly, gently pull-out and resolve any wire trapping problems, then retry. Don't push the radio too hard as you may damage something. Once in place, the cable tie can be pulled out and the 4 screws put back in place. Reconnect the ribbon cable from the facia, then starting top first and working down, gently ease the facia in place. Once properly home, secure with the two screws you removed first of all.



Now for the technical bit. Go to the Dension install web page as documented and get the Seat .mp3. Using iTunes, sync it to the iPod. Navigate to the 'song' and press play prior to connecting the iPod to the ice>Link Plus. Switch on the radio and press CD. You should receive a message that the Audi config has been selected. Now switch the radio off. Disconnect the iPod and reconnect. You are now ready to use the first 5 playlists on your iPod as 'virtual audio CDs', and using the 6th CD button, access the Dension menu.

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Notes:
  • This installation was for a dock cable, not cradle. There are two reasons for this: a) I'm using a 30Gb iPod where Apple in their wisdom have relocated the dock socket on the iPod so Dension cradles, amongst others don't fit. b) You can't see the iPod in the glove box, handy for nipping out of the car for two minutes without having to remove the iPod (as they're theives' highest gadget target these days!).
  • The Dension module takes a little time to react and it's easily confused. Give it a few seconds to respond before re-pressing a button.
  • Playlists in iTunes can be renamed. Simply prefix 1-5 to the names of your preferred playlists.
  • 2V is the best output voltage. 4V will distort with some music.
  • The cable is quite thin. For the conscious among you, slit a 10mm grommet with a knife, pass over the cable and insert into the glove-box hole. This will limit snagging.
  • Just in case you didn't know, it is not possible to use a CD autochanger in conjunction with this kit. It uses the ISO CD pins.
  • The iPod's volume level does not influence the line level in the dock connector, but EQs from iTunes and the iPod still are active. Be careful with bass enhancement as there can be large amounts of db gain which when amplified can harm free-flow speakers. Always test at low volumes and turn up gradually.

I hope this guide is useful. Of course, feel free to ask away with any specific questions. More information on the Dension kit is available here and Apple iPods here.


Cheers :D
 

Cupra_J_RS

Yellow Perril Cupra
May 14, 2007
402
0
Solihull, Birmingham
Hi Chester,

First of all, i would just like to say how useful the above guide is! You covered everything involved in the installation and i'm sure its come in useful for many others!

However, i have a question or two! Not sure if im supposed to be posting here, but here it goes...

1) I have installed the Dension Dock cable to my Ibiza Cupra MkIII, the installation was easy enough, and im confident i installed it correctly. Nonetheless, i don't seem to be able to access the Dension menu when pressing button 6 on the HU? Therefore, i can only play the first 5 playlists on my ipod Nano.

2) I seem to experience the much commented problems - when skipping to the next track, the Dension kit decided to skip to every other. i.e. when playing track 1, i press next, it skips to track 3, then 5, 7, 9 and so on.
I found if i play the song for 4/5 secs then press 'next track', it selects the next track as it should.

3) Sometimes i am able to use the ipod Nano itself to browse songs - even while connected to the dock connector, and others im not. Is there a reason for this?

The only thing playing on my mind is the Dension black earth wire, when i first installed it the Dension kit wouldnt work, i realised it must be due to the fact the flow to earth is not adequate. I changed this and it now plays fine, but i still cannot access the Dension menu, or my playlists other than tracks 1-5.

All this said, your guide is VERY useful!
Any suggestions/thoughts on this is much appreciated!!

Thanks

James
 

Chester

MPG racer
Mar 25, 2002
440
43
Peterborough
Hi James,

Thanks for the praise on the guide. Glad it was so useful.

The Dension kit (with the latest firmware when I had one) does not support the iPod Nano. You need to liaise with Dension in order to get the latest firmware. Study their website to make sure that it does indeed fully support the Nano.

Also, make sure that the Nano has the latest firmware installed. The iPod support software comes supplied on the CD from Apple.

Native iPod control is possible by connecting the dock. Playing music, disconnecting and reconnecting without turning off the car's head unit and there you go, until the iPod is reset.

In order to properly control the iPod, you need to add the Dension .mp3 file to you iTunes library, and play it after connecting to the kit in the car. The instructions will tell you the method with more detail, and only once this process is complete with you be able to fully control your iPod with a properly supported iPod.

Hope this info helps...
 

Cupra_J_RS

Yellow Perril Cupra
May 14, 2007
402
0
Solihull, Birmingham
Chester, again all your advice is appreciated.

It seems you understand this product better than Dension themselves. I have been provided with instructions manuals but at no point does it explain about downloading the Dension.mp3 file and allowing the ipod to configure itself when plugged into the headunit.

Nonetheless, i felt Dension could do more to help, so i have sent them a polite email referring to my difficulties.

I'm sure theres many others who experience similiar problems.

Thanks again, James.
 

Cupra_J_RS

Yellow Perril Cupra
May 14, 2007
402
0
Solihull, Birmingham
To keep you updated...

Dension replied to my email within 3 hrs of me sending it, i was impressed, BUT...the customer support response was shocking!

Not sure where Dension are located...but I got the impression the customer suport person replying was not english! Very poor english, grammer and general response.

Heres the email in full...

"Yes i know about the issue, but could please tell me that is your device video compatible (ice>Link module has got a yellow RCA or not? Because of the needed FW it is strongly neede. if i send you the wrong FW it can destroy the device.)> Thank you for your patience."

The issue being the device skipping tracks.

"OK. then please don't use the FW 2.10 it will damage the interface. unfortunatly by V4 devices, we don't have a solution at the moment for that issue."

The V4 device must be (i think) my type of dension interface.

It seems they are fully aware of the intermittent problems but can offer no solution. For the RRP of £100, this is just simply not good enough.

Not sure if i can say this, but i urge people to be aware of these issues (note i am not the only user who is dissappointed) and to find alternatives to Dension???

J
 

Chester

MPG racer
Mar 25, 2002
440
43
Peterborough
The most obvious solution in my mind, if you want it to work properly, would be to buy a second hand click-wheel iPod Photo 30GB. They should be cheap as chips now.

Incidentally, that's what I used, with this file.
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It wasn't 100% reliable, but custom installation gadgets seldom are at this price point. Trust me, in the custom HiFi world, kit like this would be 5 times the price!
 

Cupra_J_RS

Yellow Perril Cupra
May 14, 2007
402
0
Solihull, Birmingham
OK. Thanks for the suggestion.

I still find it shocking that Kenwood/JVC/Sony/Alpine who are all manufacturers of head units, have an ipod adaptor which does exactlwhat you would want it to do, but yet Dension claim to have a product which is supposed to have the functionality, but it doesn't!

Anyway...i just wanted to get my point across to other potential Dension buyers, just to make them aware.

Note: Im sure some Dension interface/installs work fine, as they should do, but in this instance, i experience intermittent problems which Dension can only agree with me on.

Thanks for your help tho' Chester!
 
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