Door-leak recall??

[Muttley]

This is a problem with all cars based on the Golf Mk.IV. There has not been a recall. It would have been massive..

The seal that fails is made of closed-cell foam and is self-adhesive. After a while the foam breaks down, especially in the corners where it's creased, and water leaks through. The replacement is a soft sticky black sealing compound, almost tar-like, supplied as a cylindrical strip between waxed paper carriers.

I think that the driver's door usually fails first because it gets the most usage, and the failure is associated with the repeated shocks caused by closing the door.

 

[6th.replicant]

This is a problem with all cars based on the Golf Mk.IV. There has not been a recall. It would have been massive..

The seal that fails is made of closed-cell foam and is self-adhesive. After a while the foam breaks down, especially in the corners where it's creased, and water leaks through. The replacement is a soft sticky black sealing compound, almost tar-like, supplied as a cylindrical strip between waxed paper carriers.

I think that the driver's door usually fails first because it gets the most usage, and the failure is associated with the repeated shocks caused by closing the door.

Useful to know, thanks.

But if Seat/VW Group start to claim 'fair wear and tear', then I think we can all point them in the direction of various VW Group cars that are over 25 years old and don't leak. In fact, VW used to pride itself re its air-tight window- and door-sealing - it was a feature of the Beetle's 1960s ad campaigns.

Of course, the Mk4 Golf-based models' door-seal problem is down to poor design and cost cutting. It's similar to the coil-pack issue, for which, IIRC, VW Group recently had a long-overdue 'mea culpa'-style recall...

 

[big eck]

Did you go to seat and ask them about it???

 

[barrym381]

Did you go to seat and ask them about it???

i spoke to the service manager at the dealer yesterday while my car was having free coil packs fitted he said he would have someone from seat uk phone me,sure enough got a call today askin me if i have had a quote yet to have the work done,an to wait on a call back from them before i go ahead get any work done,so hopefully might even get it done free

 

[6th.replicant]

Have emailed Desumacchi - hope my email doesn't get buried in a spam filter...

 

[Mario]

Interesting topic VAG group should do a recall if its a proven design fault.
Yes it will cost them a lot of money, but they have made bucket loads out of us.

It would be a very nice good will gesture by VAG group if they did recall and rectify this problem.

 

[cupra-kiz]

Any further news on this ??

 

[Trublu07]

My passenger side is doing it now. One is not amused.

 

[jamesy_m]

Although it is a nice idea having someone come and fix your car for free, but how many people on here would really want a mechanic, who, let's face it, probably doesn't do a lot of these, pulling your door to bits and possibly being over-enthusiastic with a silicone gun?

If you're not comfortable twirling some spanners, then yes, fair enough it's probably the best option, but personally I'd rather have a crack at something like this myself - at least I know it's been done to a level that I'm comforatble with.

After all, garage mechanics are only human like the rest of us.... and most people probably treat other people's possessions a bit differently to their own.

 

[Stuno1]

Any update on this one? Will prob just do it myself when the weather picks up though.

 

[frannyb]

my back carpet is wet aswell

 

[steve carter]

Have just e-mailed SEAT uk to find out if it is a re-call. I didn`t mention the court case from a few years ago, will save that for the reply if needed. When they respond I`ll let you all know what they say. Maybe if enough of us contact them about this they will look to do something about it if they haven`t already.

 

[Stuno1]

Have just e-mailed SEAT uk to find out if it is a re-call. I didn`t mention the court case from a few years ago, will save that for the reply if needed. When they respond I`ll let you all know what they say. Maybe if enough of us contact them about this they will look to do something about it if they haven`t already.

Nice one. It my driver Side front and rear :0(

 

[steve carter]

Same as mine, but will look to get all four done if they agree to it.

 

[Stuno1]

Can you post or pm me the e-mail addy you used as I'd like to contact them as well :0)

 

[steve carter]

Just went on SEAT uk website, clicked on contact us and filled out the e-mail info below the phone numbers that came up.

 

[n1ff]

Oh mate I'm so gutted I had mine replaced just before chrstmas as well!!!!! My carpets haven't even dryed yet I get the feeling that they may do the first few for free in the hope to keep people quiet ie. settle in small claims court. But if it turns out to be a big deal then invest some money in expensive lawyers to find them a lieupole (or however its spelt) as at the end of the day these cars are getting old and there are plenty of parts that they can put down to "wear and tear" on a 10 year car isn't there?

 

[three_cross]

Mine took weeks to dry out after spending just over an hour doing all 4 doors. One of the back footwells I had to put a shammy in and keep standing on it to get a lot of the water out.

Really is an easy job just find a mechanic that you trust and pay the £40 labour or so to do it and provide the sealant and some grease cleaning agent to them. A lot easier and you won't be cursing all through this bad weather.

It really has transformed my outlook on my car before I felt like scraping it!

 

[n1ff]

yea mate it's so frustratin especially when evryone elses cars are fine and you're just sat there in this "cold sauna"

 

[6th.replicant]

...it turns out to be a big deal then invest some money in expensive lawyers to find them a lieupole (or however its spelt) as at the end of the day these cars are getting old and there are plenty of parts that they can put down to "wear and tear" on a 10 year car isn't there?

Very much doubt Seat could claim fair wear-and-tear. An issue re leaking door seals was highlighted on this forum as far back as October 2001, which was a mere two years after the Leon's launch.

And as mentioned previously in this thread, there are plenty of examples of VW Group cars that are over 20 years old - eg Mk2 Golf - which to this day have never leaked.