Don't suppose anyone has the part number for the gti splitter? Wanting to put one on mine when I do my service next week
Ollie
Ollie
Seat stealers should know what you mean when you tell them you want a 'cupra' splitter. Or is it the gti one you want?......the two piece effort found on mid facelifts?
Mckellar
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the monkeys in the parts dept dont know what a splitter is.
i had to go and show them an LCR..
"oh a lower spoiler"
aye, einstein, well done!
i had to go and show them an LCR..
"oh a lower spoiler"
aye, einstein, well done!
I think you get good and bad parts people - depends on the person serving you (and the dealership too). Some can be pretty good, some are a nightmare.
When I had my mk2 golf and went to the dealership to order parts, one parts guy would, without exception, say "we'll be lucky to get one, they don't have many parts for the older golfs anymore" before he even looked it up on ETKA. Annoying.
When I had my mk2 golf and went to the dealership to order parts, one parts guy would, without exception, say "we'll be lucky to get one, they don't have many parts for the older golfs anymore" before he even looked it up on ETKA. Annoying.
wills and ellis seat stealer here in york responded to my request for a 'mk2 ibiza gti front splitter' with the part your after ('gti' splitter isnt a 2 piece)
around £16 if i remember correctly, and an absolute pain in the arse to get on, (maybe try a rubber mallet cus my fists were red raw when i finally managed to get all the tabs clicked in lol)
bargain geniune piece really does set off the front nicely!
around £16 if i remember correctly, and an absolute pain in the arse to get on, (maybe try a rubber mallet cus my fists were red raw when i finally managed to get all the tabs clicked in lol)
bargain geniune piece really does set off the front nicely!
yeh the 1.8 mk2 ones are 2 piece ...i think they look pretty nice, think i might swap my one for it, it fits right?
Pedro
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You sure they weren't just being facetious mate? Wouldn't be the first time a parts bloke was being difficult
Technically they are correct, the sort of things we are talking about are front spoilers.
A splitter is pretty much flat, like this:
and does work in a different way to a front spoiler
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the 2 piece one wont fit properly as it mounts to the bumper differently at the ends, from memory last few tabs point upwards into the bumper instead of sideways like the 1 piece
A splitter is pretty much flat, like this:
and does work in a different way to a front spoiler
What's the difference in the way they work?
Am I right in thinking that a lower spoiler reduces the amount of air going under the car (moves the separation point down) while a splitter moves the separation point forward?
Pedro
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Alpinewhite,
I'm afraid I'm terrible at explaining things via text, but I'll try! You aren't far away with your thinking.
The first thing we need to establish is the difference between a "wing" and a "spoiler".
A spoiler, as fitted to pretty much all production cars, works by disrupting the airflow. To be literal, it "spoils" the airflow, hence the name name spolier. The disruption in the airflow will create drag, and that drag (say over a bootlid) will cause disruption over the affected area, and give an amount of downforce.
A wing works as you'd imagine, splitting the airflow over the two halves of it's surfaces, and the resulting negative pressure underneath the wing causes what is commonly referred to as "downforce".
A production car with a massive spoiler (think mitsi evo etc) is still called a spoiler for that very reason, it spoils the airflow over the rear of the car. The angle of attack of the spoiler is not enough to create meaningfull negative lift, if it could the spoiler would just flutter away because it wouldn't be strong enough to transfer the force.
A proper aftermarket wing will have the materials (read cost) to transfer this force through the car, and can be classed as downforce (as long as the wing mounting points are strong enough to transfer the force).
Getting back to your question, a front spoiler works in the way as described. A front splitter, if large enough and with the correct profile, will work as a wing. The lower pressure created underneath the wing will help "suck" the car into the ground, whereas a front spoiler will just help prevent positive lift, not actually create negative.
I hope this makes some sort of sense!
I'm on the right lines for the front end then.
I was taught that a rear spoiler (as we see fitted to many cars, including the ibiza) is there simply to create a fixed, clean separation point for the airflow over the back of the car. It doesn't create downforce, a wing (or angled lip like on a NASCAR) would be required to do that.
I was taught that a rear spoiler (as we see fitted to many cars, including the ibiza) is there simply to create a fixed, clean separation point for the airflow over the back of the car. It doesn't create downforce, a wing (or angled lip like on a NASCAR) would be required to do that.
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