Help modding a 57 plate 1.9 TDI FR 130

[katiephil]

Hi everyone

I am new here so hello to everyone.

Just got a Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI FR 130 and what a great car it is. Well coming from a 1.25 fiesta this thing is fast for the price & good on fuel.

So having the car now for 4 weeks I know how fast and what the car can do, so without buying a new car or spending stupid amounts of cash, what’s the best way & parts to use to modify this so it performs better.

I don’t what to bring to much attention to the car as it will just get pinch where I live. (so no body kits).

This is what I am thinking of:

Engine re-map
Air filter
Exhaust system (not the big loud bore type)
Maybe an up rated turbo & intercooler
Brakes (if needed)
Clutch (if needed)
Suspension (if needed)
Dump Valve (to keep the turbo going - but i want it silent )

My questions are:

What are the best brands to use.

What components are best to use for this car.

My budget is about 3k so can these mods be done on this budget.

Thinking of a milltek exhaust (but which 1), Pipercross panel filter (is this the right choice), Superchips for the engine tune (not sure if this is the best place or brand). The other stuff I don’t have a clue.

Sorry for all the questions for my first post, as I learn and try new things I might be able to help someone in the future.

Thanks

Phil

 

[danmay]

welcome

body kits are strickly frowned upon lol so don't get that!
the main mods on an FR are a remap by either custom code, revo, or p-torque, green panel filter, miltek exhaust, rear spacers, ARB's and FMIC, if you're going big power then an fmic will be needed, probably with a clutch and 312mm brakes too!

Forge or Seat Sport are your FMIC types really, spacers are ebay fodder, fabia VRS/whiteline ARB's are 2 that i know of that people use, eerm and thats all i can think of atm.

not bad for a non FR driver eh

have a little search and see what you can find, there's bucketloads of info and resources on here so give it a whirl, T Spark's TDI is mega rapid, check his readers ride thread out, as is Mikey H, he's gone big turbo etc, have a look what you can find!

Enjoy!

 

[devonmikeyboy]

Hi everyone

I am new here so hello to everyone.

Just got a Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI FR 130 and what a great car it is. Well coming from a 1.25 fiesta this thing is fast for the price & good on fuel.

So having the car now for 4 weeks I know how fast and what the car can do, so without buying a new car or spending stupid amounts of cash, what’s the best way & parts to use to modify this so it performs better.

I don’t what to bring to much attention to the car as it will just get pinch where I live. (so no body kits).

This is what I am thinking of:

Engine re-map
Air filter
Exhaust system (not the big loud bore type)
Maybe an up rated turbo & intercooler
Brakes (if needed)
Clutch (if needed)
Suspension (if needed)
Dump Valve (to keep the turbo going - but i want it silent )

My questions are:

Sounds like you have done this type of thing before as you have got all the basic stuff covered.
Remap: Lots of companies out there which if you stick to ones advertised on this site you know you cannot go wrong. More comes down to finding the type of map that suits your driving technic then anything really.
Airfilter : Any panel filter will do but Green seems to be popular on this site for some reason. If you buy an oil based filter use very little oil on it or YOU will kill the MAF or sorce a dry filter.
Exhaust: Either pay more money and get a branded Milltek system or save a few hundred and get a custom exhaust place to build you one as long as it has a free flow backbox thats all you need and thats really apart from thickness of the metal is the difference between a Milltek and a custom job.
Intercooler: Do a search about the Seat sport FMIC as that is by far the best and also cheaper then the forge or any other make on the market but buy the forge uprated pipework for the FMIC as the Seat pipework is plastic with shite clips.
Turbo: For 3K you will have to stay with what you got.
Clutch: Sachs and Helix both do an uprated clutch to work with your DMF cost about £700+ in total with fitting.
Brakes: TT 312mm brakes are a common upgrade for a few hundred.
Suspension: Person type of thing again search to find what kit suits YOU not somebody else.
DV: Diesels don`t have a dump valve and fitting one will only make you loss power.

 

[Ibiza 130 tdi]

Nice car to start with! Loads of potential.

As devonmikeyboy said pretty much.

Remap tends to be: P-Torque, REVO or Custom Code on here
Air filter: green panel etc, not open induction kits as they'll cause heat soak issues with your turbo.
Exhaust: Milltek you get what you pay for, but it is £360ish quid for a cat back....then even more if you want a sports cat/downpipe...
Intercooler: SEAT Sport one is by far the best, fits better, is a LOT cheaper. Allards do a fairly decent intercooler but I'm pretty sure they might have gone bust...
Turbo: Allards did do turbos but there are a few stories of them going pop. Turbo dynamics do them and so do Vipersmart I believe. Pretty sure you can get an uprated turbo and fitted for about £1000.
Clutch: Helix is higher durability than sachs so best if you're looking at big turbo....
Brakes: Hi-Spec do good brakes if you're thinking about spending £1000 on them. If not the 312mm set up is popular or just uprate your discs and pads all round for about £400.
Suspension: pretty much has to be coilovers if you want something half decent

 

[katiephil]

Hi there

Thanks for the replies.

No never done this before just been reading loads in the net, google is now my best friend

forge do a diesel dump valve kit - so dint know if that will help or just make problems.

Was not sure on the panel filter so will now buy the green.

on the milltek web site there are different exhaust systems, I take it the resonated will be better as i dont want a loud exhaust.

I will check some reviews on the clutch and have a think about suspension as am not sure and not well up on this type of thing.

 

[Mr Cellotape]

And if the interior is looking a bit black you can get the Chrome accessories kits for the vent rings and to go around the gear stick housing.

 

[Ibiza 130 tdi]

forge do a diesel dump valve kit - so dint know if that will help or just make problems.

They do bit it's a waste of time and money. Costs nearly £500 iirc!

on the milltek web site there are different exhaust systems, I take it the resonated will be better as i dont want a loud exhaust.

Resonated would be best if you dont want loud yes. Although the diesels will sound nice non resonated and not overly loud, only when you boot it.

 

[katiephil]

Ok so from what am reading, this is what I decided on for my car so far:

Exhaust:
Milltek - Cat-back - Resonated with Twin Jet
Milltek - Hi-Flow Sports Cat and Downpipe

Filter:
Green Cotton panel filter

Brakes:
Audi TT 312mm brakes

Clutch:
??? Still not sure

Suspension:
???? Need to do some research into brands and stuff

Intercooler:
Seat sport with the forge installation kit

Remap:
Not had a look yet but will check out the 3 mentioned above


For the brakes is it front and back that need doing ? And do I replace everything for the full TT 312mm kit ie. Callipers, pads and stuff.


Oh and if I do the suspension do I still need to do the ARB’s ?

 

[devonmikeyboy]

Ok so from what am reading, this is what I decided on for my car so far:

Exhaust:
Milltek - Cat-back - Resonated with Twin Jet
Milltek - Hi-Flow Sports Cat and Downpipe

Filter:
Green Cotton panel filter

Brakes:
Audi TT 312mm brakes

Clutch:
??? Still not sure

Suspension:
???? Need to do some research into brands and stuff

Intercooler:
Seat sport with the forge installation kit

Remap:
Not had a look yet but will check out the 3 mentioned above


For the brakes is it front and back that need doing ? And do I replace everything for the full TT 312mm kit ie. Callipers, pads and stuff.


Oh and if I do the suspension do I still need to do the ARB’s ?

You don`t need a CAT on a diesel to pass an MOT or be road legal so forget about the sports CAT as it only applies to petrol cars. Clutch both Sachs and Helix are very good makes with Sachs beeing slightly cheaper but holds slightly less torque. As long as you keep your DMF and make sure you have an organic disc not a sinthered paddle disc type clutch you cannot go wrong with either one.Front ARB can be changed for a PD160 model but only 1mm difference. Better to put the money towards a front strut brace and get Jabba or whiteline rear ARB fitted. It all come down to money mate and 3K doesn`t take you very far really when £700 + is going on a fitted clutch.

 

[katiephil]

For the clutch should I not get the kit? (Comes with lightened flywheel)

Or do you mean keep the original flywheel and just replace the disc & cover?

Suppose it’s like anything money don’t go anywhere these days. I can always do what I can now and then do some more in few months

 

[Ibiza 130 tdi]

For the clutch should I not get the kit? (Comes with lightened flywheel)

Or do you mean keep the original flywheel and just replace the disc & cover?

Suppose it’s like anything money don’t go anywhere these days. I can always do what I can now and then do some more in few months

No don't get a lightened (or Single Mass Flywheel). It'll make your car rattle and sound horrific. I went down that road and it wasnt good. Unless you REALLY have to, I wouldn't bother...

 

[Aimez]

Hello Iwent form a 1.25 fez to 130 fr too its great!! You will notice its quite OEM on this forum especially if you have come form one of the fiesta forums I used to go on. Everyones given the same advice I would give, so what you gonna do first?!

 

[katiephil]

Well from the advice and looking for hours on the net.

First job is:
Air filter
ARB's (Front & back)
Suspension
brakes
Clutch
Custom Codes Stage 1 remap (Will ask CC to bring filter with them)

Second job:
Exhaust system
Seat Sport intercooler
Up-rated turbo
New seats


My fiesta was only a year old 07 plate (bought new from the showroom). Was the zetec climate 1.25. Nice little car but rubbish on fuel and bored of the speed etc etc.

So apart from the corsa 1.6 sri I had for 2 days (got pinched) the seat is my best car i have had so far.

 

[T. Spark]

Where abouts are you based? As menione the DV doesnt do ANYTHING on a diesel other than noise, so dont go down that route.

Nice choice of mods so far

 

[katiephil]

Am in Manchester

Yeah been reading on the DV and am not going to bother. I don’t like the sound they make anyway, and if it does nothing on a diesel what’s the point.

Am I right i saying after the second set of mods are done I should get the stage 2 remap from CC or go straight for the stage 3 remap.

 

[T. Spark]

Am in Manchester

Yeah been reading on the DV and am not going to bother. I don’t like the sound they make anyway, and if it does nothing on a diesel what’s the point.

Am I right i saying after the second set of mods are done I should get the stage 2 remap from CC or go straight for the stage 3 remap.

Just up the road I was in Castleton just yesturday

Anyway, yeah DV = big no no.

Id say from expierence if you want a remap now, and then u do further mods like FMIC etc, I wouldnt bother with a phase 2 map, it will make very little difference IMHO and not worth the money.

However I got a remap, then did everything else. Was still fast Then whent big turbo and whent for another map again.

 

[katiephil]

Yeah it’s not far am in Ashton

As I understand the stage 1 remap from CC is a standard thing & if I then mod the car i.e. exhaust, intercooler & turbo I should get a stage 2 custom remap so uses the extra benefits from the mods.

If that’s right then what extra performance can I expect?

 

[T. Spark]

WellIf you go turbo your looking at stage 3 on a diesel.

The stage 2 is just FMIC, exhaust, panel filter, pd160 air intake.

With a stage two you will see 5-10bhp more? So from 170bhp to 180bhp.

For a big turbo set up, id honestly look away from C-C as they quote 200bhp on standard injectors, yet everyone else seem to be able to get 225-250bhp out of the standard injectors without problems.

 

[katiephil]

Right I get it now.

So the plan is Stage 1 first

Do all the mods and when finished look for a stage 3 but not CC

 

[T. Spark]

Right I get it now.

So the plan is Stage 1 first

Do all the mods and when finished look for a stage 3 but not CC

Basically thats what I did. I couldnt wait for moe power so got mine to 170bhp to start with, then did brakes, suspension, diff, arbs, exhaust, bushes, clutch, then big turbo then remapped.