Help please! Car won't start

Apr 3, 2021
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Hi all I'm really hoping someone can help me with my car! It's a mk2 seat leon fr 2010 Cr170 and has been built from scratch so the wiring loom and engine has been swapped out of my old car to this one. Same engine etc. The problem is the car won't start it just cranks. We've checked, fuses, relays, ecu and everything else we can think of against another Cr170 2010 and all the wiring is correct. I have the latest vcds scan for you to look at and hopefully shed some light on it for me please!!!!!
 

jcbmally

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Immobiliser?? All the control units will have to be coded as the chassis number will be different.
there are a few threads on here relating to non starting cars, I’m no specialist so maybe some other peeps can help mate.
 
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01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC
Cannot be reached

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 C HW: 5K0 937 086 C
Component: BCM PQ35 M 011 0028
Revision: BC011001
Coding: 4E180A3E9825B0C046880080940081CC056100A842018160648040000000
Shop #: WSC 04941 123 12345
VCID: 34240DF697508F2B17-8060

29 Faults Found:
00153 - Windshield Wiper Motor; Driver Side (V216)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:30:49

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 12.55 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

00897 - Windshield Washer Pump (V5)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:40:39

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 12.45 V
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
OFF


01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:30:46

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 12.55 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:30:47

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 12.55 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:30:47

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 12.55 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:30:47

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 12.55 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:52:55

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 12.40 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF



03266 - Control Circuit for Signal Horn
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:30:45

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 12.55 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


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Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CF HW: 1K0 953 549 CF
Component: J0527 856 0111
Coding: 0000532
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 78BCF9C60BB8AB4BFB-802C

1 Fault Found:
01426 - Controls in Steering Wheel (E221)
004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 1P0 920 954 A HW: 1P0 920 954 A
Component: KOMBI H07 0307
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 410800
Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE35.rod
VCID: 2F2E029A7676ACF36A-807A

4 Faults Found:
9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor
B1041 35 [009] - Signal high time > maximum
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:33:33

12648448 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
[Steuergerät für Motor: keine Kommunikation]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:33:33

12656896 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
[Steuergerät für Bremse: keine Kommunikation]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:33:33

12669184 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
[Steuergerät für Airbag: keine Kommunikation]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:52:55
 
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AD HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H16 0231
Revision: H16 Serial number: 4320K09B3006A1
Coding: E9807F06000212000203
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 699AAC82401202C374-803C

8 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0

01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0

01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0

01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0

01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0

03272 - Control Module for Audio Interface
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0

00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 25
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0

01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H07 0307
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03005
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW32.rod
VCID: 6A98D38E8D1409DB7D-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AG HW: 3C0 959 793 A
Component: TUER-SG FT 002 0312
Revision: 12101005 Serial number: 0000034144
Coding: 0012B0
Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide A03004
ROD: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide.rod
VCID: 7CB4E5D6F780876B9F-8028

Slave Driver:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AF HW: 1K0 959 794 S
Component: J389__TSG-HR 006 1401
Serial number: 00000004476112
Coding: 000290

1 Fault Found:
68107 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
[Front CAN AirBag]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:52:54


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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 142 3001
Revision: 00H17000
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 312A04E2A842BA037C-8064

3 Faults Found:
03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid
000 - - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:30:45

Freeze Frame:
Battery Volts: 12.5 V
DU
Temperature: 15.0°C
Count: 2
Steering Angle: 0.00°
Count: 0
SteerAng n.Init

01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:30:45

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.50 V
DU
Temperature: 15.0°C
RPM: 1498 /min
Speed: 50.0 km/h
Speed: 50.0 km/h
Count: 0

01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:30:45

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.50 V
DU
Temperature: 15.0°C
RPM: 1498 /min
Speed: 50.0 km/h
Speed: 50.0 km/h
Count: 0


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 AC HW: 3C0 959 792 A
Component: TUER-SG BT 002 0312
Revision: 14101005 Serial number: 0000079682
Coding: 0012B0
Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide A03004
ROD: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide.rod
VCID: 79BAFCC2F8B2B24384-802C

Slave Passenger:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AF HW: 1K0 959 795 S
Component: J388__TSG-HL 006 1401
Serial number: 00000004460769
Coding: 000290

1 Fault Found:
68107 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
[Front CAN AirBag]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 241
Mileage: 305141 km
Date: 2021.04.05
Time: 00:52:54


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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

End----(Elapsed Time: 00:49, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V. VIgn 0.0V)------
 

jcbmally

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It looks like you may have to have the ECU reprogrammed by a Seat specialist.
 

jcbmally

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The ecu works in the other Cr170 I have tho but obviously the immobiliser kicks in so doesn't start?
I hear what your saying but I still think the ECU has to talk to all the modules it was original programmed with when new (if that makes sense). I'm surprised no other electrical whiz kid hasn't posted o here, hope you get to the bottom of it soon mate..
 
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I hear what your saying but I still think the ECU has to talk to all the modules it was original programmed with when new (if that makes sense). I'm surprised no other electrical whiz kid hasn't posted o here, hope you get to the bottom of it soon mate..
Ah right I'm not sure like literally it's confusing the hell out of me lol! Yeh me too! Thanks for ur help mate 😊
 
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