How well do 105 injectors flow?

[depresion]

http://public.fotki.com/thepunisher6969/altea/

185bhp from a 105bhp engine with just a pannel filter and remap? Sounds a bit optimistic to me.

 

[basstard]

haha
they're on drugs,,,

 

[prc]

haha
they're on drugs,,,

Couldn't say it any better myself...

 

[techie]

Not that im disagreeing but we have had a few 105PD Octavias rolling roaded at actually 120bhp. Still one hell of a jump but you get my point.

 

[prc]

Not that im disagreeing but we have had a few 105PD Octavias rolling roaded at actually 120bhp. Still one hell of a jump but you get my point.

Ross, did you look at the stated engine power? 190??

 

[muddyboots]

If they got 185 from an engine that started as a 120, then that's about the same percentage increase as Jabba reckon to get from the PD100

 

[prc]

but like all others the PD100 doesn't come with 100hp, more like 112 or there abouts. I would agree on an honest +45-50hp gain from standard so 120+50 = 170, which is still 20 shy of 190.

The other thing that seems strange is the almost 50hp loss @ the wheels, which in my opinion is also to high for a FWD car.

 

[micky 32]

so if its 140 at the wheels flywheel should be about 161bhp, which is still a little optomistic, i thought those PD100 would only go to about 140bhp max?

 

[Neo_VR]

The 105 is pretty much a pd130 IIRC tweeked for emissions..

limiting factor on these is the clutch which is smaller than the pd130 one was, and starts to slip over 150bhp

 

[micky 32]

smaller turbo than the 130 also.

 

[basstard]

Neo, assuming that when we talk about 105 PD we're talking same engine called 100 PD and sometimes 101 PD, there are actually some important differences between it and the 130/150/160 versions,,,
take a look at this thread by micky,,, some quite big differences: head bolts, block, pistons, conrods, crankshaft, injectors and turbo,,, just to say the more important ones.
this is why I don't believe it can go up to 185hp,,, I'd like to point out that max constant pressure for the VNT-15 is around 1.2 bar after that you gonna kill it,,,
now, we all know that the better performing 130/150 needs way more than that pressure to reach 180+ hp. With this in mind, I'd say that a 100/105 with stock injectors would need higher pressures than a 130/150 does to get to 180+ hp,,, this would mean something like 1.8 bar constant if not more,,,
anybody in here thinking a vnt-15 could take this for more than 1 minute???

 

[muddyboots]

i thought those PD100 would only go to about 140bhp max?

Well.....I think someone on here has had theirs Jabba'd to high 150s...apparently

 

[techie]

Neo, assuming that when we talk about 105 PD we're talking same engine called 100 PD and sometimes 101 PD

IIRC we arent. The 105 engine is bascially a de tuned 130, still has the FMIC etc.

 

[sssstew]

thats pushing the envelope.

 

[micky 32]

IIRC we arent. The 105 engine is bascially a de tuned 130, still has the FMIC etc.

was looking at etos, the 105 engine stilll has different internal engine part numbers to the 130.

 

[basstard]

was looking at etos, the 105 engine stilll has different internal engine part numbers to the 130.

so are they the same part #'s of the 100PD?

 

[basstard]

btw, what's the difference between etos and etka??