IHI VF34 vs Ko4 in size...?

[craiga]

Afternoon all!

I am currently fitting an AGU lump into my car as a project...I was originaly going to fit the Ko4 turbo, but am now looking at other options, mainly the IHI VF34.

Now this engine is going into a Mk1 Renault Clio (i know i know, but they are lightweight and handle **** hot) so as you can probably imagine its going to take some work, and the fit is VERY tight.

I know the Ko4 and standard manifold will fit, but it seems to tuck in nicely giving a little more room at the back!

Can anyone tell me how much more the IHI will stick out in relation to the Ko4 or even Ko3 and any available manifolds (most common ones used?)

I have seen images of the turbo's side by side, but its not just the physical size, its the amount it sticks out in comparison.

Cheers for any help!

 

[h17och]

if it dont fit just cut the bulkhead and re-weld....

or

custom manifold

 

[Feel]

There was that other bloke that did a 1.8T into a Clio - can't remember what turbo he used though

 

[pj1985]

That black clio runs vf34 iirc.

 

[h17och]

nt mk1 tho is it so dont really matter.

i knew a bloke who ran k03 in a mk1

 

[h17och]

or maybe k04 thinking about it

 

[stewbie55]

HTC's thread has some good pics at the start comparing his IHI setup Vs K03:

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=150703

I think his is a Tig Art tubular manifold, though Jabbasport is more popular and cast.
JBS also do a tubular mani and recently announced a cast one.

 

[pj1985]

nt mk1 tho is it so dont really matter.

Actually it might hooch as it depends on how different the bays are in setup and size. Im sure you know many new mk's of car run very similar bays to the previous mk etc.

 

[h17och]

always got an ansa aint ya.

they are different chasis so i doubt its worth thinking about

 

[pj1985]

always got an ansa aint ya.

Dont know whats with the attitude Hooch. I was trying to be helpful. Its what the forums for.

 

[traumapat]

what about the vf23? smaller unit but still gets 320 odd

 

[pj1985]

what about the vf23? smaller unit but still gets 320 odd

Or vf22

 

[wild willy]

Why only ihi, garret 2560 is a nice quick spooling unit.

 

[wild willy]

How much height do you have there in the bay. A top mounted T25 backdraft mani may help here.

 

[pj1985]

Garret seem to be bulkier. GT28RS next to vf34 was abit bigger.

 

[craiga]

Cheers for your help folks!

The black Mk1 in question has a Ko4, it was my mates car, the guy who built it. he has since sold it on.

There is a matte black mk2 (which was originally orange) which is running an IHI.

I have been told about a Ko4 hybrid? by turbo dynamics that is capable of 300+bhp and is the same size as a Ko4. I've done some digging but anyone know anything?

I know the Ko4 fits with the standard manifold, but it literally only just fits, and is a squeeze to get the rad and I/C to fit up at the front which is why im concerned about space.

300hp ish would be plenty for the car as they only weigh about 900kg with a bit of weight removed.

I bought a used Ko4 the other week, and have since found out its fuked! So not to happy about that! eBay claim in process!

 

[gellideg]

have a look at this iam thinking of this for mine at the mo
http://www.backdraftmotorsport.com/performance-upgrades/ko4-hybrid-1.8t-upgrade-turbo.html

its a ko4 hybrid

 

[craiga]

funily enough I was on that site yesterday, but I never saw that page...

thanks for the link, I'll check it out!

 

[craiga]

iv just spoke to my mate from milton keynes and he said they are always blowing up...hmmm

 

[craiga]

HTC's thread has some good pics at the start comparing his IHI setup Vs K03:

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=150703

I think his is a Tig Art tubular manifold, though Jabbasport is more popular and cast.
JBS also do a tubular mani and recently announced a cast one.

thanks mate....lookin at those pics there isnt much difference in size really between the two!!

hmmm will check those out! cheers!!