End of the day the results are near enough the same though, the standard back box on the Leon MK2 with aero kit is Remus btw, don't know much about them and the web site doesn't advertise this either, ever heard of them???
 
They seem quite good, cheers for the link as for the noise I just turn the mp3 up abit louder...the MK2 leon does sound abit like a Ford Transit at stand still though, I'd expect better sound proofing, whats the cabin noise like in the Golf??
 
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True but i am not talking about removing the air filter but removing a very good OEM paper panel and fitting an " uprated " panel filter that we all agreed does nothing other then make a noise and possibly damage an expensive MAF if over oiled. I don`t see the point in a diesel dump valve but to me a lot of people are total hypocrites as they are quite happy to rip into people wanting a diesel dump valve because they like the noise even though they know there is no power gain but have an "up rated" panel filter fitted to their car just for the noise them selfs. :shrug:
Mike,

I really not sure how your comparing a dump valve sound to a panel filter sound. Totally different sounds! I am yet to see evidence for and against a panel filter in terms of performance.

Until I am shown that then it is sensible to assume that it does do "something" for performance whether it merely be responsiveness like I noticed when i got mine done.
 
Had the car RR'd yesterday, 204 BHP with 330ILB of torque after fitting the induction kit I got 206 BHP with 350ILB of torque...

I know you can only go by what the RR printout says but that torque looks high for a 206bhp car.

Mike,

I really not sure how your comparing a dump valve sound to a panel filter sound. Totally different sounds! I am yet to see evidence for and against a panel filter in terms of performance.
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I wasn`t comparing the sound made but the fact that it was done purely for the sound.
 
I know you can only go by what the RR printout says but that torque looks high for a 206bhp car.

Mike,

I really not sure how your comparing a dump valve sound to a panel filter sound. Totally different sounds! I am yet to see evidence for and against a panel filter in terms of performance.

I wasn`t comparing the sound made but the fact that it was done purely for the sound.
And like i said until someone can categorically prove it gives no performance difference (If i remember DPJ posted a nice review of an induction kit that made a nice difference with logs) then i will still consider it a performance mod and not just for sound.
 
A good conclusive test would be to test on the rr, 1st a clean/new paper filter then immediatly after a "performance" panel filter. The do the same for an induction system. This would clear performance doubts once and for all.
Maybe I'll have the chance to do just that soon enough.

Nevertheless it's a known fact that an induction kit should help a bit on the spool-up process and offer a better throtle response (not power) below turbo boost area.
 
And like i said until someone can categorically prove it gives no performance difference (If i remember DPJ posted a nice review of an induction kit that made a nice difference with logs) then i will still consider it a performance mod and not just for sound.

Was the logs on a petrol or diesel car because DPJ is a self confessed petrol head and tunes petrol cars not diesel cars.
 
Was the logs on a petrol or diesel car because DPJ is a self confessed petrol head and tunes petrol cars not diesel cars.
Thats not even the point though of whether its petrol or diesel.

I would go as far to say because a few said it makes no difference and are quite popular, other people are scared to say otherwise in case they get ridiculed. I think my panel filter has made a difference to the responsiveness of the car. Either way until someone proves that it doesn't make a difference i will think otherwise.
 
I think my panel filter has made a difference to the responsiveness of the car.

But this is perfectly possible and I also agree it does... Another completely different matter is stating that you're getting extra bhp and ft-lbs just because you've switched from a (clean) paper filter to a panel "performance" filter on a 1.9 PD TDI engine....
Haven't yet seen any prove in that direction, but have seen plenty otherwise.
 
Getting some stuttering on the car now at about 1500RPM, not a problem but at WOT getting more smoke than normal, any thoughts???

Tom, do you mean some vibrations coming from clutch/engine when at wot at very low revs? If so that's normal and is symptomatic of the clutch not being able to digest so much torque. Other common symptom is of course clutch slipping.

Anyway you shoud deffo avoid wot at such low revs when neither the turbo or engine are at their best operating level and as a result it's usual to see lots of smoke coming out though clearing later on as the turbo builds boost. Other nasty side effect is that the clutch can be wasted in no time.
As a generic rule I should say that wot situations should be avoided from 3rd gear upwards below 2.000RPM.
 
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Hello mate,

The car seems to be searching for fuel or air at low revs or feathering the throttle?? as for WOT i never give it loads under 2000RPM for 2 reasons 1, Engine and clutch wear. 2, the amount of soot/smoke it chucks out the back...

I've bought some Millars diesel additive yesterday, I'll give that a go and see how it goes...

Cheers.
 
Yes they are different and tune differently as you said.

However again that wasn't the point i was trying to make at all!! The point I was trying to make is that NO ONE on this forum (i done a search and could find anything) has done similar tests to what DPJ has done therefore how can you or anyone say as gospel that it doesnt make no performance difference what so ever? Its bull mate total bull.

I am an open person so I like to investigate things before i take them as fact so please there is an open invitation here for someone to do it....
 
I've personally witnessed quite a few rr tests with performance panel filters and intakes on remaped 1.9 TDI's with no conclusive/relevant gains.
I'm not saying it's impossible to net any power gains in comparison to a stock clean paper filter but if any are neglectable from what I've seen so far...

Just my 2 cents...