Infotainment Semi Conductor manufacturer?

[Scotby]

I've just been reading in Auto Zeitung that the Golf is to get a different semi conductor manufacturer for the infotainment screen when the model is facelifted.
It's planned to switch from Qualcomm to Samsung.
One of the reasons cited is due to the length of time it takes the system to boot up. Expected to be cut from 40 to 6 seconds.

So it sounds as though all the updates that VW/Seat/Cupra issue are merely temporary fixes. The real reason for all our problems is maybe more to do with the hardware.

Does anyone know know which chip the Formentor uses?

I received my Formentor in September & it's running software version 1804 on H56 hardware. It's having it's share of issues:
Pixellated pink screen
Double popping sound from left speaker
Blank screen
Slow to boot up

At least the voice commands work. It can even understand Northern, which is a big improvement on BMW i drive.

 

[ninja_geezer]

the ironic thing is the latest samsung super phones use snapdragon processors made by qualcomm .... makes no sense

 

[Scotby]

Would those be the Samsung phones that burst into flames?

 

[martin j.]

Isn’t the contents of the code in the chip rather than those who produce it what counts? Sure VW group give the maker the specs required?

 

[AndyCupra93]

Code optimisation plays a huge role for sure, and there’s no doubt that a lot of the issues are caused by code that hasn’t been properly debugged & QA tested, but the processor & memory specs help (for example, you could mitigate lazy, inefficient coding practice in some cases by simply employing higher spec hardware to “brute force” it…).

 

[Tell]

My theory is dieselgate fiddling took it's financial toll and they cut corners on QA as a consequence. Mind you saying this Seat's app development on the mib2 high wasnt good so it was going to be interesting with connected cars.

The hardware clues are going to be in the Audi hardware for mib3. This is the cut and paste press releases published at the time:

https://media.audiusa.com/en-us/releases/409

https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/what-is-audi-mib-3

Audi's MIB 3 Infotainment System Arrives This Year: Here's What's New

Audi's next-generation infotainment system will start rolling out this fall, the automaker has confirmed, with most 2021 vehicles set to get its upgraded MMI. The…

www.slashgear.com

Everything you need to know about Audi's third-gen MIB infotainment system - Your Test Driver

Audi has announced that the third generation of its infotainment system (MIB 3) will arrive in most 2021 vehicles starting this autumn. The biggest upgrades are to the hardware, which includes a chipset that is 10 times faster than the MIB 2 technology, but there’s a significant number of new...

automotivemap.com

The one I lost but just re-found... tells you of the switch from QNX to Automotive Grade Linux (Mib1/2 -> Mib3)

Big Changes For Audi’s Infotainment System Coming In 2021

Get ready for on-demand SiriusXM programming.

www.forbes.com

"But perhaps the biggest change for Audi’s infotainment system is the operating system. To power the new electronics system, Audi made the switch from BlackBerry’s QNX to Automotive Grade Linux.

QNX provides the building blocks for the infotainment system found in the millions of passener vehicles. The BlackBerry subsidiary licenses its electronics platform technology to automotive manufacturers, which can range between $1 to $5 per vehicle installation. But many major automotive manufacturers have joined an open-source consortium to collectively develop a Linux-based infotainment system. By switching to Automotive Grade Linux, brands can save tens of millions of dollars and reap the benefits of the growing community of automotive developers.

Last year parent company Volkswagen AG announced it was building a new electronics platform to be used by its brands, and shifted its Car.Software program to Audi’s control. MIB-3 could be the start of this switch to a unified technology platform.

This bodes well for Automotive Grade Linux. The open-source consortium has been a dark horse in the infotainment space that is dominated by QNX with Google's Android Automotive closing in."

That's your Mib3 operating system / programming language. Err just need the hardware manufacture.

Website on Automotive Grade Linux:

Home - Automotive Grade Linux

Automotive Grade Linux (AGL) is an open source project to accelerate the development of a fully open software platform for automotive applications.

www.automotivelinux.org

Did someone say chipset... googling for another night. ... unless @East Yorkshire Retrofits want to open one up. I recall they said there were a lot of different mib3 models.

Anyone with one can always Google the part number taken off the screen and see what it turns up and dig down from there, but given it's probably too early for a trade in them, probably a dead end. Ah no H56, Made in Poland. Quite a bit on offer on eBay.

Elsewhere pictures of it with the black blanking plate that the gubbins hides behind. As thought the unit is straight behind the plate, the plate is the front of the unit. Needs further bashing away to get to the chipset .

 

[Scotby]

My theory is dieselgate fiddling took it's financial toll and they cut corners on QA as a consequence. Mind you saying this Seat's app development on the mib2 high wasnt good so it was going to be interesting with connected cars.

The hardware clues are going to be in the Audi hardware for mib3. This is the cut and paste press releases published at the time:

https://media.audiusa.com/en-us/releases/409

https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/what-is-audi-mib-3

Audi's MIB 3 Infotainment System Arrives This Year: Here's What's New

Audi's next-generation infotainment system will start rolling out this fall, the automaker has confirmed, with most 2021 vehicles set to get its upgraded MMI. The…

www.slashgear.com

Everything you need to know about Audi's third-gen MIB infotainment system - Your Test Driver

Audi has announced that the third generation of its infotainment system (MIB 3) will arrive in most 2021 vehicles starting this autumn. The biggest upgrades are to the hardware, which includes a chipset that is 10 times faster than the MIB 2 technology, but there’s a significant number of new...

automotivemap.com

The one I lost but just re-found... tells you of the switch from QNX to Automotive Grade Linux (Mib1/2 -> Mib3)

Big Changes For Audi’s Infotainment System Coming In 2021

Get ready for on-demand SiriusXM programming.

www.forbes.com

"But perhaps the biggest change for Audi’s infotainment system is the operating system. To power the new electronics system, Audi made the switch from BlackBerry’s QNX to Automotive Grade Linux.

QNX provides the building blocks for the infotainment system found in the millions of passener vehicles. The BlackBerry subsidiary licenses its electronics platform technology to automotive manufacturers, which can range between $1 to $5 per vehicle installation. But many major automotive manufacturers have joined an open-source consortium to collectively develop a Linux-based infotainment system. By switching to Automotive Grade Linux, brands can save tens of millions of dollars and reap the benefits of the growing community of automotive developers.

Last year parent company Volkswagen AG announced it was building a new electronics platform to be used by its brands, and shifted its Car.Software program to Audi’s control. MIB-3 could be the start of this switch to a unified technology platform.

This bodes well for Automotive Grade Linux. The open-source consortium has been a dark horse in the infotainment space that is dominated by QNX with Google's Android Automotive closing in."

That's your Mib3 operating system / programming language. Err just need the hardware manufacture.

Website on Automotive Grade Linux:

Home - Automotive Grade Linux

Automotive Grade Linux (AGL) is an open source project to accelerate the development of a fully open software platform for automotive applications.

www.automotivelinux.org

Did someone say chipset... googling for another night. ... unless @East Yorkshire Retrofits want to open one up. I recall they said there were a lot of different mib3 models.

Anyone with one can always Google the part number taken off the screen and see what it turns up and dig down from there, but given it's probably too early for a trade in them, probably a dead end. Ah no H56, Made in Poland. Quite a bit on offer on eBay.

Elsewhere pictures of it with the black blanking plate that the gubbins hides behind. As thought the unit is straight behind the plate, the plate is the front of the unit. Needs further bashing away to get to the chipset .

Actually have felt like bashing it on more than one occasion, but this is my own car rather than a company driver, so I’ll wait in hopeful anticipation of a software fix‍