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[acidstrato]

could it be done for roughly 500quid parts 500quid fitting absolute MAX?
also would it work on Revo software?


basically the question is sell up later this year or keep it and modify

i'll be 23 in October, and touchwood I'll have 5 years NCB. Also by then I'll have owned my Cupra for 2 years and 6 months. It is already the longest owned car I've had...so it cant be all bad!

my issues with the car...though modified its still equipped with stock k03 turbo. It's pretty quick, but its not fast. I've experienced K03S and it's not enough for me to splash out on

the only other thing is that while my car is only 5 years old (2002 year) the design is what...15years or more? and it shows. The build quality is poor in comparison, the ride quality is harsh and still doesn't handle fantastic.

let me hear you thoughts, so confused...could splash out on an average miles Evo VI/VIII or M3 by the start of next year but it would cost far less to go for a turbo swap, but is it justified?? if spending a grand I'd just get a GT2x but tbh it begrudges me to spend even that much

 

[nick-barnes07]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/K04-Turbo-Man...oryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem , obviously you would have to get a custom manifold , and 4 bar fpr , etc

 

[nogutsnoglory]

tbh i think you'd be lucky to do it for sub 2k, hooch got all his stuff pretty cheap and fitted himself but there are things you cant avoid unless selling bits like downpipe and turbo tip etc to gain a little bit back. Custom downpipe needs to be made, TIP etc... hes the best one to ask, he was running revo stage 2 to start with but it needed to be custom mapped.

In a similar boat, been wanting more power for ages but tbh im just broke at the moment, although im not sure i would get more than 5k for mine and buying another one at ihi level would still be 7-8k when they come up anyway, so why not spend a little extra and keep the motor you know the ins and outs of and just save up. It'll be worth it !

 

[HarveyGTI]

quick thoughts....

may be able to get the turbo for that price

fitting, depending on how long it takes, greatly dependant on experiencing any issues like the bolts snapping or issues getting the manifold off etc (and god knows what else), so could be more than £500

for example Storm Developments in Reading charge £40 an hour labour....so 10hours would be £400, and that should be more than long enough to change the turbo over

HOWEVER

pointless doing the conversion if you are not going to get a custom map and looking to stick with a generic one, as it simply wont get the "most" from doing the conversion, therefore a waste of time and money

so parts and labour, could well be a £1000 in total (as already mentioned by yourself), but i would recommend putting another £500 aside for the custom remap

whenever people mention "tuning" and "budget", and they simply NEVER go together. from reading thousands of posts, if you want a car setup and to run at its best, then you have to throw alot of money at it....otherwise things go wrong, or not setup properly or you are not getting the most from what you have setup/changed - "you get what you pay for"

 

[nogutsnoglory]

oh, and the k03s isnt as quick as i thought either, only advantage is being able to go past 5.5k which can come in handy if over taking lorries etc, but feels no different in boost from when the turbo kicks in.
When i go bt i hope to get some money back from the k03s, tip and d/p & sports cat, but it wont be much really.

 

[HarveyGTI]

oh, and the k03s isnt as quick as i thought either, only advantage is being able to go past 5.5k which can come in handy if over taking lorries etc, but feels no different in boost from when the turbo kicks in.
When i go bt i hope to get some money back from the k03s, tip and d/p & sports cat, but it wont be much really.

to be honest mate, having more than 240BHP from the K03s (amongst other mods) is more than enough power for a FWD car (having owned one myself)....although this is something that will always be a discussion of many thoughts and views

BT is great, I can well understand that, but its purely for straights only

friend of mine is selling his IHI Ibiza...its a license loser, everywhere he goes, he is doing 100+ and silly speeds. ok great, it is FECKING quick, my god is it, but don't see the point of it of anything more than 250 in the Ibizas

IMO the K03s is the perfect turbo for the Ibiza, right amount of power, allows the power to be held further up the rev range, great!

 

[acidstrato]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/K04-Turbo-Man...oryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem , obviously you would have to get a custom manifold , and 4 bar fpr , etc

did you mean downpipe? i was under the impression the kit you had fitted by h00ch used the stock k04 manifold?

must admit i forgot about the TIP, not so put off by DP as I was a few years back, it was the ebay link provided above that really got me thinking, if i wasn't going on holiday this summer i'd snap that up. watching it anyway just to see what it goes for. im guessing that it'll go for abit more than 500quid.

as for the custom vs generic...i'm a firm believer in the old saying "you get what you pay for" however I am not a believer in 'custom' mapping. never have and never will. I'd have to see proof in logs for myself of k04 Revo vs k04 custom map run side by side before taking a road trip to someone like Jabba. But since none exists its difficult

 

[nogutsnoglory]

to be honest mate, having more than 240BHP from the K03s (amongst other mods) is more than enough power for a FWD car (having owned one myself)....although this is something that will always be a discussion of many thoughts and views

BT is great, I can well understand that, but its purely for straights only

friend of mine is selling his IHI Ibiza...its a license loser, everywhere he goes, he is doing 100+ and silly speeds. ok great, it is FECKING quick, my god is it, but don't see the point of it of anything more than 250 in the Ibizas

IMO the K03s is the perfect turbo for the Ibiza, right amount of power, allows the power to be held further up the rev range, great!

yes, up the point where i got bored with the power id agree, dont get me wrong i know its quick, but its just not enough, if i could strip the car out it would prob be better but i need it for practicality as well as for performance so need the seats, the spare wheel etc.
I wish they'd have made the cupra R's a little bit more special and made them with a k04 so a simple remap would be enough, get the rest of the goodies and 280-290 would be plenty (for me anyway)

 

[acidstrato]

oh, and the k03s isnt as quick as i thought either, only advantage is being able to go past 5.5k which can come in handy if over taking lorries etc, but feels no different in boost from when the turbo kicks in.
When i go bt i hope to get some money back from the k03s, tip and d/p & sports cat, but it wont be much really.

cheers mate, its refreshing to see someone whose vision is not blurred by peak figures. I've always contested the efficiency of the k03sport, but not many listen.

ideally the k03s should have been stock. But in reality there isn't a great deal of difference between the k03 and the sport. and the sport still drops power a fair bit at the end of the day.

 

[acidstrato]

gotta be honest, if A&M were still around, I'd be mighty tempted even though i didnt think much of the blokes. again though, mapping issue

 

[nogutsnoglory]

how much were they when they were about?

 

[Daz_gibbo]

Easy! Buy and run an M3! Alot more expensive than anything with the Ibiza but what a car!

 

[HarveyGTI]

cheers mate, its refreshing to see someone whose vision is not blurred by peak figures. I've always contested the efficiency of the k03sport, but not many listen.

ideally the k03s should have been stock. But in reality there isn't a great deal of difference between the k03 and the sport. and the sport still drops power a fair bit at the end of the day.

refreshing because you are the one of the minorities who think the KO3s is not very good?

 

[nogutsnoglory]

cheers mate, its refreshing to see someone whose vision is not blurred by peak figures. I've always contested the efficiency of the k03sport, but not many listen.

ideally the k03s should have been stock. But in reality there isn't a great deal of difference between the k03 and the sport. and the sport still drops power a fair bit at the end of the day.

on a good run both can get 14's 1/4 mile so there cant be that much in it, i'd defo fit a diff and a boost controller if i had more power though

 

[nogutsnoglory]

refreshing because you are the one of the minorities who think the KO3s is not very good?

im not saying its not good, im saying its not as much as i'd want from a turbo for the money it has cost, for others it could be perfectly suitable, if bought cheap enough and fitted yourself its a very effective mod but you still need all the other bits to get the most out of it.

 

[acidstrato]

i think they sold units for 850odd?

but with stock manifold and downpipe fitment it makes things a whole lot easier.

not sure on inlet though, think David, who is the only person i know running one went 3" but i think even the forge ibiza tip might have been ok since intake housing must essentially be a k03s???

 

[nogutsnoglory]

Easy! Buy and run an M3! Alot more expensive than anything with the Ibiza but what a car!

lol @ daz

 

[acidstrato]

refreshing because you are the one of the minorities who think the KO3s is not very good?

nobody said that...read what i did just say....it should have been standard!

BUT I've done the research i've seen and felt them in action, and there is not as great a difference as some people make out

the general opinion is that the k03 is capable of 220ish peak figure and the k03s is capable of hitting 250s... but this is total rubbish and taking from different RRs across the UK. In the past we've had people with the full works comparing a run they did on RR A in February against someone else with just a remap that ran on RR B in August.

i do not think that its not a good turbo. it IS better than standard, I just dont think its 'that' much better.

 

[HarveyGTI]

on a good run both can get 14's 1/4 mile so there cant be that much in it, i'd defo fit a diff and a boost controller if i had more power though

K03s's have been proven to run high 13's - fact

 

[Daz_gibbo]

To be honest I bet most have this dilema. BT is always so tempting, just can't imagine how well it would pull. But i know the harshness of the ride and other little things would still niggle me whatever.. just gotts keep telling myself that