Looking at buying a LCR, but should I be concerned by mileage?

danny20vt

going back to basics
I wish I had a pound for every time I put my mileage on threads like this, i'd probably be able to get a big turbo conversion by now, anyway mine is on 145k, not an LCR but 1.8t just a little less power.

Basically, don't be scared away by big mileage, just make sure full history is present and use it to your haggling advantage
 

coops10

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pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1311428.htm

Not sure im allowed to post links to pistonheads, but since you asked, here it is. Im open to offers. get in touch. My e-mail is ben(at)utopium.co.uk or phone 07811 981 040.
its advertised on here too.

Just think, you would have a wicked drive home down the M4! :)

Ahh yes, I remember it now and remember thinking "so thats what the back seats look like" lol.

I wish I had a pound for every time I put my mileage on threads like this, i'd probably be able to get a big turbo conversion by now, anyway mine is on 145k, not an LCR but 1.8t just a little less power.

Basically, don't be scared away by big mileage, just make sure full history is present and use it to your haggling advantage

I did find a few after I searched.... !! Haggling advantage is good now but not for when I sell it!!
 

Steely

semiskimmed cupra R
Dec 30, 2008
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Just to fill you with a bit more confidence,

Mates just bought a 1992 polo G40 supercharged 1.3/1.4 IIRC its just broken the 196k mile mark, its been thrashed, crashed beaten up etc,

he's just chipped and put a smalller pully to the charger, it pulls stronger than my 180 LC, shows Vw's durability,

ive had my cupra 180 nearly 11 months now, bought with 35k now on 48k, its driven hard, practically most of the time, but always warmed up and cooled down,

all its ever needed up to now was a brake switch :)

do you know if the cambelts been done?
 

coops10

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Just to fill you with a bit more confidence,

Mates just bought a 1992 polo G40 supercharged 1.3/1.4 IIRC its just broken the 196k mile mark, its been thrashed, crashed beaten up etc,

he's just chipped and put a smalller pully to the charger, it pulls stronger than my 180 LC, shows Vw's durability,

ive had my cupra 180 nearly 11 months now, bought with 35k now on 48k, its driven hard, practically most of the time, but always warmed up and cooled down,

all its ever needed up to now was a brake switch :)

do you know if the cambelts been done?

Thats good to know! I will check with him tonight about the cambelt.

Just to rub salt in the wound, mines an 03 with less than that :D

The wound is well and truly open now! But I am only 21 and this will be my first performance car, upgrading from a 1.2 corsa :lol:
 

coops10

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Don't forget to also view the car in daylight - don't want to miss any exterior/interior blemishes etc. ;)

Already arranged to go back on Sunday :)

Well? What did you think? :D

Only just got back...!

Positives:

- Interior is MINT. Not a mark is sight.
- Full Seat service history for its entire life at the same garage
- Owner is a master technician at Seat and has replaced most failure prone parts
- Its flipping fast, seriously. Going to be an interesting upgrade from the Corsa.
- Got him down to £5900. Left a deposit.
- Only one previous owner.

Negatives

- Quite a lot of stone chips on front bumper, but its black and it shows them up the worst.
- Custom made exhaust is quite loud, but sounds the tits when booting it. But maybe slightly too loud.
- Tax due in November.
- Front tyres have about 2mm tread left on them, backs are fine.

The guy was great, really talkative, explained everything. Seems totally genuine.

He took me out in it and was a lot faster than I expected. Brakes were amazing!

Left a deposit to hold until Sunday with the intention of buying providing it looks ok under daylight. Cant wait!! :clap:
 

6th.replicant

Active Member
May 29, 2008
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- Quite a lot of stone chips on front bumper...
That'll be because it's done lots of motorway miles, which is good news re the above-average mileage - ie minimal wear 'n' tear cos it's been cruising along in 6th with the engine/turbo & gearbox at optimal temps (let's hope he always let the turbo cool-down before cutting the ignition when he pulled into motorway service stations...).

- Only one previous owner.
Excellent

- Front tyres have about 2mm tread left on them, backs are fine.
Make sure your replacements are the same make/type - mixed tyres really upset an LCR's handling balance. As the owner is in the motor trade, can he get you some tyres at trade-price?

What make/type are the rear tyres? Get a quote, cos LCR tyres can range from to £65(ish) to £140(ish) each. Might be a bargaining tool if they're pricey 'uns, such as Michelin Pilots?

- Custom made exhaust is quite loud, but sounds the tits when booting it. But maybe slightly too loud.
Is this exhaust made of stainless steel or ordinary steel? If the former you'll be OK cos it should last 'forever'; if the latter, it'll eventually rot & it could be very expensive to have a replacement section(s) custom-made or you might have to buy a complete replacement exhaust (not exactly cheap) if you can't get custom-made.

Has the he still got the OEM exhaust?

Also consider that an exhaust that sounds well-fruity when blatting around on B-roads can be a droning headache-inducer on the motorway. And forget about being able to hear the stereo or talk with passengers! :headhurt:

Just a thought, as the fella works for SEAT, ask if he'll help you out with parts at trade-price in the future. If he says 'No', then it might be because he has a reason for not wanting to see you again...

FWIW, one of the most reliable cars I've ever owned was bought from a mechanic. :D

Below is a general checklist for LCs/LCRs (sorry, should of thought of posting it before - d'oh! :doh:).


Here's a checklist compiled from various posts on this site:

LCR/LC/Leon specific:

Uneven tick-over? Flat spots at 2,500-3,000rpm?

Is the MAF clean?

Engine code on a 225 should be BAM..., for 210s its AMK... Engine code can be found on front offside edge of the engine.

Can you check under the car? Is the under-tray still in place (these often get damaged/torn-off - £100-ish to replace)? Is the splitter present (if not, it's £25-ish at SEAT stealers & 'clip-on' fixing)? Check exhaust brackets are fully intact.

Check bodywork for paint-fade on yellow & blue (non-metallic) LCs/LCRs.

Boot lock work OK? (Simple/cheap fix.)

Evidence of water ingress in boot, under driver's/passenger's floor mats? (Simple/cheap fix.)

Check the rear wiper washer works fine and is not leaking into the boot. (Simple/cheap fix.)

Switch on the aircon and select 'low' for temperature. The radiator fans should come on but at a slow speed when using aircon. If the fans come on fast and loud then on/off then the fan motor resistors have gone.

Do the mirrors fold-in via the adjustment knob (turn to 6 o'clock position). Do they open OK when back to 12 o'clock?

Does the horn work correctly? If its tone is merely a feeble 'peep', then it's a front-bumper-off job to clean, reconnect & reposition (facing rearward) horn.

Does the car have a pukka FULL SERVICE HISTORY (aka FSH)? If not, walk way!

If the car has a retro-fit Audi S3 front, top strut-brace - Leon/LC/LCR & A3/S3 share same chassis - consider that if there isn't also a retro-fit rear strut-brace (a bar across the back seat, fixed to rear strut turrets), then the car will be prone to excessive on-the-limit understeer (because the front-end will be much stiffer than the rear).

If, during cold weather, upon engine start-up there's a loud 'beep' & a flashing warning-light illuminates on the dash - switch off & restart. If light has now gone out & there was no 'beep', then it's a simple/£0 fix (a sensor on the engine coolant bottle needs cleaning). However, if when restarting there's another beep & the light comes on again, then you need a diagnostic (VAG-COM) check, because ...?

Ask the owner to take you for a drive when the engine is cold; if he/she then thrashes it from cold - walk away! Similarly, if during the drive the engine/turbo is given a good workout, & the owner then switches off without letting the turbo cool-down (ie allowed to idle for approx 60 secs) - walk away!

LCs/LCRs are generally robust & well-built, but can be pricey in the long-run if they've not been maintained or driven correctly.


General used-car checks:

If car is over 5 years old or accumulated 60k miles, it should have had/needs a cambelt change (also change water-pump to brass impeller on VAG 1.8Ts).

Brake pads - much left on them? Discs ok?

When warmed up, put in 6th at 30mph and put your foot down to check for clutch wear. (A vital check for re-mapped cars.)

Gears engage correctly when driving in a spirited fashion - 1st and 2nd especially? (A vital check for re-mapped cars.)

Check for play in steering. Car brakes in straight line/drives in straight line? NOTE: some LCs/LCRs can very slightly pull to the left, this is because the alignment setup is for LHD cars, which therefore compensates for driving on the right-side of the road (camber).

Is tyre-wear even? Tyre condition? Are all 4 tyres of the same manufacturer/type? If not, the car's handling will feel unbalanced (especially LCRs).

Body alignment, dents, scratches etc. Crouch at rear & front of car & look along sides.

If the bodywork needs a wash, consider that the owner might be trying to conceal paint blemishes or fading (see ref to yellow & blue LCs/LCRs, above).

Any rattles (interior & exterior)?

Check all electrics, windows, fog lights (front & rear) etc, etc.

Fully open and close all the windows and check for any nasty cracking/twanging noises - the cables can snap and unravel inside resulting in the glass falling inside the door. Check that central locking works on all doors. Neither are massively expensive to fix but require stripping down the door and are a bit of a PITA.

Front light adjustment etc.

Scroll through trip computer, you may be able to see how its been driven... (mpg etc)

Check the CD changer & radio works. Check all the speakers work.

Check engine temp doesn't go over 90C.

Ask owner to show you where the oil dipstick is located; if they don't know, then walk away 'cos it means they've never checked, or care about, the oil level...

Engine bay: fluid levels; 'mayo' on inside of oil cap; check dip-stick - is oil level low; is the engine oil old (ie black & treacle-like)?
 
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