Luckily i wasn't driving really fast

[rune172]

A few days ago my car went out of action, i had caught the oil sump on a stone that tore a hole that emptied my engine completely of oil, mega ****! i was hoping i hadn't damaged anything and stopped in time.

So i took the damaged sump off and replaced it, filled the engine up with oil whilst checking for leaks and all looked good so i head out, Im holding people up taking it easy and really enjoying driving again when i straighten up just after a slight bend on the roundabout when my rear decided to slip out, i try to correct it but there was no point, well my car spins around jumps on to the roundabout then bounces back off again until im facing oncoming traffic, not good
I get out of my car and i see my wheels on my left side totally wrecked

When i looked further i noticed something even more worrying, my right wheel was facing foward but my left wheel looked full lock left nooo! Further inspection revealed:

That arm should be straight, but as you can see its totally gay, really really gay !

I hadn't driven the car for for long and its back off the road.

My concern is i wasn't driving fast and the corner wasn't a sharp turn, i feel like i was lucky that this didnt happen on the motorway and no one else was involved.
Has anyone heard of this happening before? I didn't clip the roundabout until after i lost control.
Im new to all this mechanical stuff and aint got a clue on how much its going to take to fix. Any advice greatly appreciated.
Im off to sulk now lol

Anyone know of a company to get new alloys at decent prices?

 

[nick-barnes07]

doesnt look that bad from the photo s , looks like bent drop link bent anti roll bar and few other bits , the dearest bit is gonna be the wheels i would of thought , no chassis damage i take it , ibiza s will always be shiit at handlin IMO , more reason to uprate the anti roll bars

 

[rune172]

doesnt look that bad from the photo s , looks like bent drop link bent anti roll bar and few other bits , the dearest bit is gonna be the wheels i would of thought , no chassis damage i take it , ibiza s will always be shiit at handlin IMO , more reason to uprate the anti roll bars

Thanks for the reply Nick m8.
No damage to the chassis, only scraped underneath so not so bad there, it felt worse than it was. I damaged my jack when i threw it at the floor really pssd off, no wonder no one stopped i was livid lol Normally i go more than twice the speed on that roundabout and it loves it, i have to say i prefer driving my cupra than the cliosport, normally the handling is smack on, i've tried purposely losing the back end but it wouldnt budge and hugs the road well so i was really shocked to see it go driving so slow. I was just about to refurb and sell the borbets too as the rear tires are really wide and stretched to fit (could that be the cause?). i wasn't totally happy with that when i bought it but thought it should be safe enough untill i could afford new alloys for it. maybe that was the reason the guy got rid of it? humph! lol
As for wheels ive seen the white OZ superturismo WRC's mmm

 

[GlanzaV]

Any daylight pictures of the damaged Borbet?

P.S What size stone was it to tear a hole in the sump? I know a guy who hit a speedbump at speed (he never saw it) and actually spun the sump plug out! no other damage apart from losing all his oil over the road!

 

[jason-jm]

very lucky mate

 

[jason-jm]

and unlucky at the same time though

 

[nick-barnes07]

the wheels might of been the cause , did the tyres have good tread , you may of just hit a wet patch of the road , just unlucky i suppose , at least you didnt injure yourself , i came of the road in my old 330ci bmw , hit a wet patch and the rear end just decided it wanted to slip of the road , ended up facing towards the oncoming traffic , looking like a twat

 

[andycupra]

so you say the car jumped on the roundabout then off again,
then say you didnt hit the roundabout?

did you hit it or not?

few possible reasons for this accident:
diesel / oil on road.
oil on road from leaking sump or pipes you had just replaced...
deflated tyre that then came of rim...

or some of the damage you have seen was already there. you sure it was a stone that damaged the sump and you didnt hit something?

 

[Ninja]

Looks nasty.. I reckon it was probably caused by oil from somewhere.. Maybe when it poured out before some got stuck then came out whilst on the roundabout..

If you werent giving it any and were holding people up i doubt it would have just happened

 

[m0rk]

so you say the car jumped on the roundabout then off again,
then say you didnt hit the roundabout?

did you hit it or not?

few possible reasons for this accident:
diesel / oil on road.
oil on road from leaking sump or pipes you had just replaced...
deflated tyre that then came of rim...

or some of the damage you have seen was already there. you sure it was a stone that damaged the sump and you didnt hit something?

OR

stretched tyres that are totally safe.

 

[andycupra]

OR

stretched tyres that are totally safe.

good call. seen that happen and they dont look right in the pics..

 

[beattie17]

Tyres wont have caused it, i ran stretched tyres on my old 9x16's and i never had a problem with rear end stepping out

 

[m0rk]

don't talk shite. if tyres were meant to be that shape they'd come like it on cars.

At the end of the day all the 'europhiles' will admit that stretched tyres aren't as grippy as a correctly sized tyre - but go under the excuse "but I don't push my car"

but at the end of the day when you get any kind of lateral load on the tyre it's gonna roll onto it's sidewall reducing the grip level further.....

 

[David_smith_909]

don't talk shite. if tyres were meant to be that shape they'd come like it on cars.

At the end of the day all the 'europhiles' will admit that stretched tyres aren't as grippy as a correctly sized tyre - but go under the excuse "but I don't push my car"

but at the end of the day when you get any kind of lateral load on the tyre it's gonna roll onto it's sidewall reducing the grip level further.....

agreed.......

 

[rune172]

Sorry for the late replys guys
GlanzaV :
I will take more pics tomorrow m8, the stone that gouged the sump wasnt that big really, it was more to do with the road around it, i hit a pot hole that lowered the car just enough to clip it car ran like a dream once fixed so there doesn't seem to be any damage to the engine.
jason-jm :
Yep and yep, that lucky unlucky thing lol
nick-barnes07 :
The only tire that was close to the limit was the front right ( as mr plod so happily pointed out after he noticed no tax disc (that i done online 3 days prior ) the car really did stick well to the road (99.9%) thats why im so baffled by it, I felt like a right twat too, knowing everyone would be assuming i was booting it, if i had i'd say, and laugh it off as experience but to crash going so slow is embarassing lol
andycupra :
I hit the roundabout after the back end goes. I checked for anything on the road like oil but couldn't see anything just a very slight raise in the road surface. I cleaned up underneath the car after the oil change and checked today and the sump is all good, no leaks. It could have been a deflated tire m8 or the steering arm was damaged prior to me buying the car.
Ninja :
I couldnt have gone much slower m8 lol
m0rk :
The grip on the car is usually spot on with the stretched tires, and as i wasnt booting it there couldnt have been enough roll on the tire to pull it off, i wouldnt have thought anyway. Im taking the adivce and changing the wheels to something more standard and symetrical lol.

My mate and i gave the car a good once over while it was jacked during the oil sump replacement, tires had tread and pressures were correct, no sign of damage only a cable for the Aircon had come loose. Im going back to the abandoned car today to check it over in the daylight, my bet is that i ran over something that deflated my tire slowly but fast enough not for me to notice, maybe lol

Anyone got any cupra r alloys forsale, im willing to travel some distance.
Thanks for all your feedback guys

 

[beattie17]

My concern is i wasn't driving fast and the corner wasn't a sharp turn, i feel like i was lucky that this didnt happen on the motorway and no one else was involved.

don't talk shite. if tyres were meant to be that shape they'd come like it on cars.
At the end of the day all the 'europhiles' will admit that stretched tyres aren't as grippy as a correctly sized tyre - but go under the excuse "but I don't push my car"
but at the end of the day when you get any kind of lateral load on the tyre it's gonna roll onto it's sidewall reducing the grip level further.....

Sorry should of said i dont see it being tyres as he wasnt going fast and from my experience with stretched tyres 215/35 9x16 i havent had any problems and thats with pushing the car hard round corners. My opinion only, make of it what you's like.

 

[andycupra]

is it possible that something else got damaged when you hit the pot hole? then broke when you were driving?

seems to be if you were going at a steady pace and oil is not apperent then it points to a failure somewhere.
be it tyres, wheel, suspenion etc etc

what tyres are they? and i presume it was wet going by the pics?