mk1 leon no central locking at all???

[pugparcels]

ok, i dont post a lot on here, have never needed to by searching i have found nearly all of the small number of problems i have ever had but this one is really causing some issues.

i will try to keep this short ( 2001 mk1 leon 1.8t )....

10 days ago the electric window cable snapped in the drivers door, speaking to seat they wanted a huge amount of money for all for the parts required as it really did some damage. thankfully the window did not break when it slid all the way down.

i managed to get a complete internal metal card with motor and everything required off ebay for £50.

i removed all of the old window mechanism, the metal door card everything not required from the car. plugged the new motor into the loom and checked that all worked fine, moved the two metal clips to inline with the holes in the card so i could slide the window down and bolt in place.

once this was all done i put the door card back in, connncted everything up and had the wife sit inside the car, shut the door tried the locks and all seemed fine.

she opened the door from the inside, i removed the door card once again to tighten all bolts on the metal card, make sure all of the loom is not fouling on anything etc etc

i shut the door ( again wife in car ) with no internal door card just the metal one, locked the car. tried to unlock it and the remote central locking and using the key would only open the drivers door nothing else?

after spending most of the day messing around with this i had enough and decided to leave it and look again in the morning. i later had a call from my dad ( the car was at his place ) he said he tried to open the drivers door with remote and key in door with nothing happening.

you could here lock / mechanism movement in the drivers door but nothing happening. all of the other doors were still locked, in the end he went in through the boot, and manged to open the front passenger & rear drivers door from the inside.

the driver & rear passenger doors remain locked no matter what you try.

speaking to my local garage before i even think about calling seat, they believed there is a control module ( or something like that, that works on the central locking ) and if this was to have failed then a trip to seat it will be.

can anyone shed any light on this? before i go speneding lots of money...

 

[pugparcels]

right, i have just spoken to my local seat dealer, they believe it could be the key barrel in the drivers door is not operating / turning the lock in the drivers door so that is why i cant unlock the car.

if that is the issue, i am still a bit confused to why the rear passenger door and drivers door do not open from the inside? he does not believe they are dead locked and maybe if i can get the drivers door open and if it is the barrel causing the problem once rectified then the rear passenger may sort itself out....

but this is one mans suggestion, any of your would be appreciated.

 

[LEE69]

Just did the passenger regulator myself and i caught the loom to the door lock and sliced the wire.
Is the loom on the door lock securely, you have reconnected the motor back up to the door loom, the big connector?
Tried the fuses at the end of the dashboard?

 

[pugparcels]

all the connections are back together, pretty sure i have not caught any wires but will have another double check just encase.

all fuses are ok in the main panel ( end of dash board ) and have also checked fuses by battery, any others i have missed?

 

[LEE69]

There are some under the dash panel but i'm not sure that they are connected to the windows/central locking.

http://www.icecavern.com/howtos/leonlowerdashtrim/main.php

 

[LEE69]

If you have the radio code you could try a battery reset, see if it wakes up the CCM?

 

[pugparcels]

forgot to mention tried disconnecting the battery on sunday whilst trying everything else.

left it off for around 1 hours, connected it back together and the problem got even worse, tired to start the car and the alarm kept going off.

thats when i left it, my dad then rang about 3 hours later to let me know that he went to start the car and all then seemed well ( no alarm etc )

it was only later that evening he tried again and couldn't get in through the drivers door, and ended up through the boot. to be fair wish i had been there, hes a big chap that would have been funny!

speaking again to my local dealer the fuses underneath the dash, as you thought have nothing to do with the central locking so should not be causing a problem.

i have booked thursday off work, think i will try to get the drivers metal door car out first, undo the lock from the inside and then go from there, even if i cant get the central locking working, at least i will have cut some labour costs by getting the doors unlocked myself.

 

[pugparcels]

right, all door are now unlocked. i have removed the lock barrell from the drivers door. so i can lock / unlock the door with a screw drivers ( so i can see whats happening ) again when you turn the lock or with fob it is only locking / un locking the drivers door nothing else?

is this likely to be a dealer type, plug it in and reset something type job?

also there is a screw i need to replace, as you look at the end of the drivers door, there is 2 black bolts that hold the lock in place and the one i am after is hidden under the black cover, it holds the barrell in place.

anyone have a part code for it? hope that makes sense!!

 

[pugparcels]

right, bit of an update. i have spoken to my local seat dealer and have had no joy "book it in and we'll have a look" has been the answer.

my local vw dealer has been far more helpful, and finding that an old school friend works there has been even better.

after describing to him the issues i am having and what has been done so far, he rang seat and managed to get a bit of info for me.

when i bought a complete interior metal door card with the window mechanism attatched, it also had a window motor. i assumed this would be a straight swap, not according to the dealer at seat, the original motor and assosiated parts are programmed to the car.

the replacement part i got from a breaker is not programmed to the car hence the reason i cannot get any cetral locking to work. so i have this morning taken my old motor and bits to the garage ( not seat dealer ) and he will be puttign all of the old parts back o nthe metal card.

hopefully this will do the job, i will keep this updated

 

[andycupra]

when my window cable failed i went a similair route to you and replaced the entire inner door card with motor etc as it was £10 second hand..
panel was same year etc, however my central locking went a little mad, so i changed over the circuit/control board attached to the motor from the original panel and put it into the new panel.
All fine since.
Appears that there was a difference in this circuit board .control box part of the motor, so id use the original motor control box.

Might not be whats happened here, but i wasnt clear after reading your posts if you reused the original motor circuit board..

 

[pugparcels]

well, wil find out in the morning.

just waiting for a call from my garage to let me know how they have got on, if i had known this information before i never of even had to take it to the garage but to a degree, i dont have the time to keep messign around so if i have to pay someone to sort it for me then so be it.

at least its a local garage that i trust and i know, not my local dealer.

 

[pugparcels]

i have my car back and it all works!!!!

after they put the original window motor back in, put it all back together it was as if there had never been a problem!

so it turns out all the issue was, is a replacement window motor from another car will need programming to work with your car. or if like me you can get away with the origina lone use that.

thanks for everyones help!

 

[LEE69]

Nice one

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[andycupra]

i have my car back and it all works!!!!

after they put the original window motor back in, put it all back together it was as if there had never been a problem!

so it turns out all the issue was, is a replacement window motor from another car will need programming to work with your car. or if like me you can get away with the origina lone use that.

thanks for everyones help!

so like i said then... shame i didnt post before you put it into the garage.