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VRSLOZ

VRSLOZ

Formally SC16v
May 1, 2010
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Hi Guys

Wonder if you guys can help me, I had a longish drive today 100 miles+ in the 1.4 and to be honest I'm feeling pretty down :(. I knew the 1.4 engine was never going to be lightning fast but it still feels like it's holding back (it's not the car running wrong it's just slow), I tried to get round someone today and it was struggling. Also felt down that I didn't see great MPG on the journey SO..........I'm thinking of MAYBE changing next year to a derv. I know I still have my 1.4 on finance but the sales team @ Letchworth have confirmed they will give me a price on the 1.4 so I can fund a newer car.

Can you diesel guys give me an idea on what you think the engine is like (love the ibiza so just need to know the engine will do the job). I want it to be a bit quicker and have good MPG, I could go for a TSI jobbie but rather get a better MPG. At the moment it's a toss up on price, the 1.6 is cheaper option but I'd spend the extra if the 2.0 FR is going to be that much better.

Thanks guys :)
 
Can't speak for the 1.6 drivers as I haven't driven one, I used to drive a 1.6 TDCi sport Fiesta though. I was initially going to get a 1.6, went for a test drive and the dealer gave me the FR. Glad I didn't get the 1.6, performance and economy rolled into one and my FR doesn't hang around ;)
 
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As a 1.6tdi owner id say get the 2.0 if you an afford it and the insurance.
The 1.6 is alright on MPG. if you're going to be doing miles of driving at 50/60 you'll be laughing, start cruising at 70 and that drops to 45ish,
It can get round stuff, and it's got some balls if you keep it in the sweet spot, but I dunno, best way to put it is overtaking is something you need to plan rather than something you can just do, if that makes sense?
 
I did a 160 trip yesterday, averaged 54 mpg. Didn't go mad but didn't hang around either.
Shame your not closer, I'd be happy to take you for a spin.
 
nightflight said:
As a 1.6tdi owner id say get the 2.0 if you an afford it and the insurance.
The 1.6 is alright on MPG. if you're going to be doing miles of driving at 50/60 you'll be laughing, start cruising at 70 and that drops to 45mpg
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I have the TSI and if you cruise at 60 65mpg is achievable, the only problem is you realise it's more
Fun not to.
I've gone from a 2.5 tdi Audi and doing slightly better fuel and driving a lot faster lol.
The tsi is hardly juicy and I think you would need to drive some miles very steady to see a worth while improvement getting a diesel.
 
Just of l8 i keep having to go to bedford for work (30miles there 30 bk) and last trip i got 39.somthing, and that was crusing at 80 and driving anything but economical ;)

Could get into the 40's with easy if i tryed and thats with the pet TSI
 
Just done a test for you 70 ish cruise control about 35-40mpg depending on gradient lowest indicated was 7.8 that was accelerating @ ton +
And cruise @ 120 was 19mpg

All tests carried out on the runway in my garden !
 
When I went to Czech Republic I managed nearly 50mpg cruising at 60mph dropped to around 46mpg at 85mph and well at 150mph it was not good to say the least hehehehehehehehehhe. In all honesty, with such a short commute the diesel will hardly be worth it mate, you would seriously be better off with say the 1.2tsi (does that come with dsg????) as thiat is what makes all the difference buuuuuuuut if you can afford a cupra.......................... or a boc for that matter :whistle::funk:;)
 
I drove the 1.4 petrol before going for the 1.6 diesel. although the 1.6 is only an extra 20BHP more it's so much easier to overtake. The 1.4 power delivery is quite flat, much the same as other makes 1.4s (turbos excluded here)

Before going to the black oil, it's worth considering your regular travelling distance as diesels need to be up to temperature before you get the best MPG. My car is the 1.6 CR TDi with only 1200 miles on the clock so still very tight. I have a 20 mile each way commute to work that takes about 25 minutes. 17 miles of this is on the motorway, after 10 miles I'm up to 45 mpg at 70mph, by the time I leave the motorway it's up to about 53. Using cruise control its a few mpg worse. Busy motorways I find that the cruise control does not help much anyway. On the country lanes its easy to get more than 60 once warm when doing 50 - 60mph, overtaking is confident and easy, knock it down a cog and let the hoover do its job. For the odd overtake on a run mpg is not badly affected.

The FR lump is a fair bit quicker and should keep within about 5 mpg of the 1.6. It a few groups higher on insurance and falls into the higher road tax bracket (1.6 is a band C £30, 2.0 is a band D £90 for 2010).

In a nut shell if you can afford the extra outlay to buy, insure and run, the 2.0 will be more fun. It'll also be the FR spec. More smiles but lighter pockets.
 
One more thing, if the diesels need to get to temperature on a regular basis to keep the DPF clear. So far I've not seen the light or noticed any active regen in 1200 miles. Regular shorter runs you may be better off with a petrol.
 
I swapped a LCR for my 1.6 CR TDI, I had the Leon from new and kept it over six years. I loved that car but averaging 22mpg and a change of circumstance whereby I often do a 600 mile round trip in a day meant it wasn't viable.
I bought the Ibiza with the intention of hating it, after all it is smaller, slower and a diesel. BUT.... after five months and 7500 miles the Ibiza has won me over.

Fuel consumption for my daily six mile commute ranges between 50 - 60 mpg, depending on traffic. The best I have seen and this was calculated full tank to full tank is an average of 72mpg. This was achieved on one of my 600 mile round trips. The journey was mainly motorway but did include a trip into central London, so it wasn’t all cruising.
Normal driving I get 500 miles to a tank of diesel, when doing one of my trips I get 600+. It normally costs me about £45 in diesel to do 600 miles.

From a power point of view I find it fine. It may only be 105ps but if you use the torque of the engine correctly it is surprisingly quick. Obviously the 2.0l will be quicker but you have to trade that off against the extra cost new.

Another benefit of the 1.6 is zero road tax in your first year and £30 per year after that, plus lower insurance.

Overall I am very happy with mine. I was initially concerned that I might get problems with the DPF only doing a daily commute of six miles. Happily that fear was unfounded. To-date I have never had a DPF light on and have only ever noticed it regen once, it has probably done more but I am not aware of it.

This car was bought as a stop gap with the intention of keeping it for the three years my son is at university and I am making frequent trips to London, after that I fully intended buying another petrol car similar to the LCR I used to own. Having driven it now for 7500 miles, I can see no reason to change it after three years, I may just keep it a bit longer or buy another one the same but spec it up a bit as mine is standard.
 
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