I had 6000k and went to 5000k, that's better!
Saw a scoob on the dualler up here with blue headlights and sidelights. And I mean proper blue, not 8000k HIDs but just blue
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MOT Changes concerning after market HIDs!
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I had 6000k and went to 5000k, that's better!
Saw a scoob on the dualler up here with blue headlights and sidelights. And I mean proper blue, not 8000k HIDs but just blue
Thanks guys, have just been searching about it seems most OEM at rated at 4300k. Looking at different colour charts i think 5000K is the one for me.
Where did you get your HIDs from/What is a fair price to pay?
Where did you get your HIDs from/What is a fair price to pay?
Thankyou! Found a 35w CanBus compatible set for £50, just what i needed.
Love my hids and a fed up telling people they WILL pass an mot.....
I think that hids should not be banned, but the colour temps/actually colour produced should be sanctioned more heavily.
I'm on 4500k and it's a proper white light....
Seen some horrendously blue hids that just don't produce any light at all....
Hids
Blue/purple hids
I think that hids should not be banned, but the colour temps/actually colour produced should be sanctioned more heavily.
I'm on 4500k and it's a proper white light....
Seen some horrendously blue hids that just don't produce any light at all....
Hids
Blue/purple hids
Im still not 100% sure that HIDs will pass an MOT come April. The regulation book says they will but the regulation change document from the dvla says they wont.
But the letter sent to MOT stations reads as such.
Have to wait to see what happens on the run up to april when changes take place.
But the letter sent to MOT stations reads as such.
Have to wait to see what happens on the run up to april when changes take place.
Love my hids and a fed up telling people they WILL pass an mot.....
I think that hids should not be banned, but the colour temps/actually colour produced should be sanctioned more heavily.
I'm on 4500k and it's a proper white light....
Seen some horrendously blue hids that just don't produce any light at all....
Hids
Blue/purple hids
I think they are dangerous and should be banned, they dazzle far too badly on crests and bumps in the road, for self leveling mechanisms not to be forced. Halogens are just tolerable, HIDs are 3 times brighter!
EVERY headlight does this regardless of having self leveling or not.
At some point over a crest you WILL dazzle an oncomming driver.
i know what you mean here aswell about being dazzled by HIDs happening me couple times last night and the halogens hardly bothered me
i agree, that all HIDs should be forced to have autoleveling on them.
To be honest it's different for every single driver....some people will be affected by halogen dazzle more, some hid and even factory fit...
I for one seem to be affected more by halogen....the beam pattern throws light everywhere on some models....where is if I come across a car with hid or factory fit I know it's bright for a shorter time because the light is more concentrated...
My mate has his own mot station and from what he's said he won't be able to fail them....
As said tho, if the police spot them because people are driving about with 6k + blue hids then your going to get a 60 quid fine...another one of my mates had 6500k and got fined, I was parked next to him with my 4500k and never got a look...
I for one seem to be affected more by halogen....the beam pattern throws light everywhere on some models....where is if I come across a car with hid or factory fit I know it's bright for a shorter time because the light is more concentrated...
My mate has his own mot station and from what he's said he won't be able to fail them....
As said tho, if the police spot them because people are driving about with 6k + blue hids then your going to get a 60 quid fine...another one of my mates had 6500k and got fined, I was parked next to him with my 4500k and never got a look...
regular hid is not a problem, but aftermarket hid will throw out that same poor beam patter as the halogen did. Hence why I will personaly be failing them if any come into our MOT station.
You should work for the daily mail with paraphrasing like that.
I know every light does this but gas discharge bulbs are 3x times brighter in some cases.
Hence worse, Hence the law requires oem spec to fit leveling sensors.
I'm guessing you mean if they have a poor beam pattern as failing a correctly setup car could lose an MOT station it's right to operate
Am I the only one that is left confused by this post?
AL90 correctly quotes a VOSA document which is quite clear. After market HID's are an MOT failure unless you fit them to the standard of a factory fit with washers and self leveling mechanism.
Next VRSLOZ states,
I would have liked to read it for myself but the link wont work. But if the quote is right, after market HID's are not an MOT fail after all.
Next Vroomtsh has posted a copy of the page from the MOT manual relating to lighting. Now I may be reading it wrongly, but I don't see where it mentions after market HID's.Having read it it through a few times I take it to talk about factory fitted HID's, not after market ones. If this is the page VRSLOZ refers to, where is the quote he refers to.
I have no wish to get into the argument over after market HID's but I do think VOSA need to clarify themselves. If they are an MOT pass, remove the document that says they are a fail from their website. If they should be a fail, re-write the testers handbook so it clearly states they are a fail.
Ultimately the motorist needs a clear and concise answer!
AL90 correctly quotes a VOSA document which is quite clear. After market HID's are an MOT failure unless you fit them to the standard of a factory fit with washers and self leveling mechanism.
Next VRSLOZ states,
I would have liked to read it for myself but the link wont work. But if the quote is right, after market HID's are not an MOT fail after all.
Next Vroomtsh has posted a copy of the page from the MOT manual relating to lighting. Now I may be reading it wrongly, but I don't see where it mentions after market HID's.Having read it it through a few times I take it to talk about factory fitted HID's, not after market ones. If this is the page VRSLOZ refers to, where is the quote he refers to.
I have no wish to get into the argument over after market HID's but I do think VOSA need to clarify themselves. If they are an MOT pass, remove the document that says they are a fail from their website. If they should be a fail, re-write the testers handbook so it clearly states they are a fail.
Ultimately the motorist needs a clear and concise answer!
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The page I posted is from a proper copy of the new manual, not off the Internet.
It covers all hids, not just standard.
The rfr for garages also states Inoperative or defective is a fail. Therefore 'missing' is not a fail.
It covers all hids, not just standard.
The rfr for garages also states Inoperative or defective is a fail. Therefore 'missing' is not a fail.
Ive had my Hids in 3 years and never got a look at i have "6000k" and even passed with a MOT if this comes in effect then ill just take them out and put standards back and put them in after the test simple... Its your choice weather you have Hids or not.. but any higher than 6000k is a no no in my opinion but its at the mot station discretion weather the car will pass anyway
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If the leveling system isn't there then it is defective imo , i can find enough to say they are illegal as i can legal so feel free to challenge me
Can you let us know which garage you work for.
Defective and missing are two very different things and very clearly defined by VOSA.
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