Realistically, it's going to be at least 1-2k more (the old Cupra R was 2.5k more than the Cupra) and for that you'd get the extra 25bhp, bigger brakes, wheels... I wonder if the leather seats are standard? They look nice...but then again I suppose they are an option on the Cupra.
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Realistically, it's going to be at least 1-2k more (the old Cupra R was 2.5k more than the Cupra) and for that you'd get the extra 25bhp, bigger brakes, wheels... I wonder if the leather seats are standard? They look nice...but then again I suppose they are an option on the Cupra.
Hmmmm...not exactly going to have us rushing the the dealer to change to the new model is it ?
Ronal R46 wheels from the Cupra championship parts bin, bloody awfull new steering wheel, tacky badges and those silly huge mirrors, not to mention the Mazda style rear lights...they have really blown it this time !
Ronal R46 wheels from the Cupra championship parts bin, bloody awfull new steering wheel, tacky badges and those silly huge mirrors, not to mention the Mazda style rear lights...they have really blown it this time !
The MK1 Leon Cupra and Cupra R had a lot more differences than just the power gain, brakes and wheels bud.
The engine a lot more different, it had a bigger turbo, different suspension, twin intercoolers, completely different (uprated) interior, bespoke body kit, splitter, Brembo brakes etc etc.
Also bear in mind that the Ibiza Bocenagra is only going to cost £600 more expensive than the Ibiza Cupra.
As far as the MK2 Leon is concerned, realistically, the ECU map is going to cost SEAT nowt, the internals to the pump is going to cost no more than those in the Cupra. The bigger wheels, tyres and additional badging would be lucky to cost £600.
I agree with all the differences except that. Other than some red stitching and black head lining the interior the Mk1 Cupra and Mk1 Cupra R are identical, unless you specced Recaro seats.
The brakes seem a bit iffy as well TBH. 2 pots on the front where the previous Cupra R had 4 pot Brembo's and even the new Ibiza Cupra has 4 pots on the front all be it not Brembo's. Lets hope the change that.......... (oh and sorry if someone mentioned this already...... 
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Excuse me if i'm wrong but i thought the CUPRA officially had 240ps, but alot of people have had 260-265 on the rollers in standard form?
All this waiting and excitment about dsg, new body kit potentially, AP/brembo brakes etc etc, and all thats visually different is 2 'R' badges, and internally just a fuel pump and remap.
I've been looking forward to the launch of the new lcr for a while. what a waste of enthusiasm that was.
I fear that this could be deliberate orders from the vag group to make the seat 'hot' versions less appealing to increase sales of their more expensive R20T golf and S3. Lets face it, if this new lcr looked **** hot like the old one, who would of bought an R20T that cost more?
On the plus side, i'm very glad ive got a mk1 lcr, and the introduction of the mk2 lcr won't decrease the value of mine one little bit!
I've been looking forward to the launch of the new lcr for a while. what a waste of enthusiasm that was.
I fear that this could be deliberate orders from the vag group to make the seat 'hot' versions less appealing to increase sales of their more expensive R20T golf and S3. Lets face it, if this new lcr looked **** hot like the old one, who would of bought an R20T that cost more?
On the plus side, i'm very glad ive got a mk1 lcr, and the introduction of the mk2 lcr won't decrease the value of mine one little bit!
I fully agree but i still recon they would sell more of the old model than of the new even now.
Disagree. No offence, but who would want a brand new obsolete model car with inferior technology and hardware that is slower, more polluting, less safe and less tunable than its successor, even if it was arguably better looking?
The brakes seem a bit iffy as well TBH. 2 pots on the front where the previous Cupra R had 4 pot Brembo's and even the new Ibiza Cupra has 4 pots on the front all be it not Brembo's. Lets hope the change that.......... (oh and sorry if someone mentioned this already......
The standard mk2 Brakes are very powerfull , dont let the fact that they are monobloc pistons make you think they are pants , they run on 345 mm discs , people who came from a mk1 cupra r have said how much better the brakes are in the mk2.
Power levels are subjective only because it's unknown how SEAT themselves measured the figures the powerplant gives, whether it was tested on-road, on a rolling road or an engine bench dyno.
It's pretty common that most rolling roads have indicated the 240PS (237bhp) delivers around 260bhp at the flywheel, wheel horspower is closer to the 240PS figure qouted though.
It's pretty common that most rolling roads have indicated the 240PS (237bhp) delivers around 260bhp at the flywheel, wheel horspower is closer to the 240PS figure qouted though.
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Right, so the R also has no power advantage over the cupra, i presume you would only see gains after a remap.
I think the sister company of the vag group should stop worrying about their internal compaction!!!!! And start worrying about the external ones.
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There is a lot to chose from.Depens what you want!!!!!
Ford Focus RS
Renaultsport Megane 230 F1 Team R26
Vauxhall Astra VXR
Honda's Civic Type R
MINI John Cooper Works
Mazda Speed3
Proton R3
There is a lot to chose from.Depens what you want!!!!!
I'll be very surprised if the Mk2 LCR ends up looking like that! From what I can see the only non mechanical differences are the extra R badges!
Right, so the R also has no power advantage over the cupra, i presume you would only see gains after a remap.
As I've just pointed out. The figures are subjective, but as SEAT qoute 240PS on the Cupra and it commonly produces 260+ at the flywheel at least.
Then it's easy to sumise that if they qoute 265PS on the Cupra R then it should actually develop more when put on one of the many generic rolling roads out there.
It would make little sense to publicise the power increase and not actually provide one.
However the larger wheels will reduce acceleration and the power increase is seemingly not of a large enough percentage increase to make it a great deal quicker than the current Cupra.
Whether there have been any significant internal upgrades to this engine is unknown at the moment at least, and SEAT/VAG are ever secretive about the actual engineering on a pr level at least.
So whether it will remap to the same levels as the current Cupra or more is yet to be seen and would depend on components like the turbo too.
The car is unlikely to change from what has been presented in this pre-show preview.
There is no historical evidence to expect that SEAT will change the look of the car before the show or even after it.
They will flesh out the finer details at the show and more images will be provided but the car previewed is essentially the car they will release to market, this is not a concept or prototype.
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