power gains on a cupra R ,expert knowledge required

[Davlin280]

what gain would you expect from a full turbo back 3 inch miltek on cupra R, how much more with induction and how much with both plus a re-map?
Cheers

p.s i have tried the search function an dnot really found anything definitive which is why im asking the experts on here

 

[jc_boc]

I believe the gains are pretty much in line with a normal cupra, so stage 1 roughly 300BHP, stage 2 with TBE +- 340??? then additiona of intercooler and induction sees you on stage 2+ at roughly 365BHP. Not saying this is gospel but that is about as much as I have gathered listening to most folk and i think these details should also be on REVO website.

 

[Davlin280]

wow, 340 from full exhaust and re-map,is that right?

 

[jc_boc]

Like I said mate, I believe so but am open to correction in all honesty.

 

[FR_Kris]

wow, 340 from full exhaust and re-map,is that right?

My R was 313bhp and 315ftlb torque with a remap only, need to get a re-run for stage 2

 

[Davlin280]

that makes 340 with exhaust and re map seem believable, how far will the standard turbo go?

 

[Al]

As per gains on Cupra, and there are 100's of threads on here about it.

Cupra/Cupra R 240/265 + remap = 300bhp approx - same figures as same engine + turbo

Intake will give approx 15-20bhp more on a mapped car (assuming decent intake like Evoms and not a panel filter/carbonio type deal.
Exhaust will give approx 10-15bhp more on a mapped car (assuming uprated downpipe)
Uprated fuel pump and intercooler for decent numbers although intercooler is not really necessary

 

[Brinkz]

As per gains on Cupra, and there are 100's of threads on here about it.

Cupra/Cupra R 240/265 + remap = 300bhp approx - same figures as same engine + turbo

Intake will give approx 15-20bhp more on a mapped car (assuming decent intake like Evoms and not a panel filter/carbonio type deal.
Exhaust will give approx 10-15bhp more on a mapped car (assuming uprated downpipe)
Uprated fuel pump and intercooler for decent numbers although intercooler is not really necessary

Well here goes my first newbie VAG ignorant question - so is the lump in the Cupra exactly the same as the Cupra R? I was under the impression the Cupra R had the same 2.0 TFSI as the S3 & TTS, where as the Cupra was just the standard 2.0 TFSI...

 

[Poverty]

Cupra r and Cupra lump is same. Cupra r has bigger intercooler

 

[Brinkz]

Cupra r and Cupra lump is same. Cupra r has bigger intercooler

Thank you for that. So both have the stronger pistons & gudgeon pins, new rings, reinforced connecting rods, new bearings, reinforced cylinder block at the main bearing pedestals and cap, new lightweight aluminium-silicon alloy cylinder head for high temperature resistance and strength, adjusted exhaust camshaft timing, increased cross-section high-pressure injectors, 1.2 bar boost pressure K04 turbocharger with larger turbine and compression rotor??? (I pinched the list from a very good article on the TT forum).

Wow, I didn't realise how much VFM you were getting with the Seat over the VW or Audi - obviosly there will be other differences inside the cabin and the 4wd system.

 

[Al]

Cupra engine is CDL code
Cupra R engine is CDL code

Cupra has suffix D for slightly thinner intercooler (CDLD)
Cupra R has suffix A for slightly thicker intercooler (CDLA)

Therefore engines are absolutely identical. The intercoolers on both need uprated for sustained high power.

 

[invisiblekid]

that makes 340 with exhaust and re map seem believable, how far will the standard turbo go?

K04 turbo will make a max approx 380bhp with meth. Most realistically you'll see somewhere between 350bhp-370bhp with a well set up car running Stage 2+ code, with all the required hardware (induction kit, fuel pump, exhaust, intercooler).

Handling mods such as lower springs/coilovers, WALK are highly recommended along with engine mounts - and of course good tyres (Toyo R888 or R1R).

 

[Al]

Not convinced on the WALK (whiteline anti-lift kit) to be honest - uprated engine mounts are good although the car sounds rough with them fitted.

I am running my 888's at the moment - when they are hot, they are truly something else.

 

[invisiblekid]

Not convinced on the WALK (whiteline anti-lift kit) to be honest - uprated engine mounts are good although the car sounds rough with them fitted.

I am running my 888's at the moment - when they are hot, they are truly something else.

I'm a huge fan of my R1Rs, but I will be replacing them with R888 due to the load index on the R1Rs.

I'm also a big fan of the WALK to be honest mate - not sure why you didn't see much benefit - just out of interest did you fit it before or after your coilovers? I'm thinking coilovers come summer - any recommendations?

 

[anthony37]

You can achieve 400bhp if you get the right settings for WMI. Every car takes differently to there mods depending.