Rear beam bent :(

[tstrahonja]

Well..i was being a retard, span out and passed pretty fast over a curb with my left rear wheel.
Now it is bent there is a lot of camber, and also wheel moved towards front...
The entire rear beam seems ok, only bent just behind the rear disc..
Is there an optinon of straithening and reinforcing, or i have to find another rear beam?
If so, whar car beams can i use? Can i use any ibiza mk3 beam or cupra is different?

 

[CupraSean]

Possibly some polo's to? I'd deff change it though, you will hve seriously weakend the material an structural properties. I'd feel more comfortable changing, but that is me.... Sorry to hear about that tho bud.

 

[andythom]

There's always loads of beams on ebay

 

[tstrahonja]

Unfortuantley i am from Croatia, so i would probably have to pay 1 entire salary just for the shipping....
Beam will be straightened, it has bend "only" 1cm..
However, in the near future i will buy anoter used one, just have to find out can i use non cupra rear beam...

 

[tstrahonja]

Can anyone confirm if all ibiza's rear beam's are the same, or do i have to look for rear beam of ibiza that had rear discs, or cupra is different?

 

[chris_200120vt]

Can anyone confirm if all ibiza's rear beam's are the same, or do i have to look for rear beam of ibiza that had rear discs, or cupra is different?

looking at vagcat no 2 beams are listed a rear beam then there is on listed WITH anti roll bar (cupra)

 

[tstrahonja]

thanx for the reply...hm...maybe antiroll bar can be inserted into non cupra rear beam...
oh well...mine is already fixed, straightened, reinforced and will be on my car tommorow...

 

[kyle'87]

thanx for the reply...hm...maybe antiroll bar can be inserted into non cupra rear beam...
oh well...mine is already fixed, straightened, reinforced and will be on my car tommorow...

glad to hear it mate

 

[tstrahonja]

Unfortunatley rear beam is still bent
I am driving it that way, but i definitley need another one..
Can someone please confirm what rear beam can i use to replace cupra's..
At the moment i can get a rear beam from cordoba...any chance it would fit?
Polo rear beam?

 

[tstrahonja]

Maybe Golf 2, Golf 3?

 

[chris_200120vt]

polo gti may be , may be worth a chat with bill @ badger5 may be able to shed some extra light on it for you

 

[tstrahonja]

Contacted Bill..hopefully he will answer...in the meantime...BUMP

 

[m0rk]

You need a mk3 ibiza beam, nothing else

 

[tstrahonja]

The thing is that there are not many Ibiza's in my country, only 2 or 3 cupra's in Croatia..
Also there is not a single ibiza(non cupra) on big car junkyard near my city...only 1 cordoba...
However there are few golf's, polo ..thats why i am asking if i can use their beams...

 

[m0rk]

Yeah, I appreciate that, but it won't help

The cordoba will fit if it's a mk3

 

[joehirth]

Polo GTi 6N2 has exactly the same rear beam as the Ibiza/ Cordoba. It has a different part number however.

If I were you I would replace:

Stub axle's (unless you're happy with those on the replacement beam)
Hubs
ABS Sensor (I've bought eBay one because OEM are £70+ each)
ABS rings
New nuts and bolts throughout
(Tin of paint on black Hammerite)

Check out my readers ride I have pictures of all the new parts. I have lined up the two beams I have (one original Ibiza one and a Polo GTi 6N2 - they are exactly the same I can assure you)

Any other questions feel free to ask

P.S Polo GTi because it's the only model to come with rear discs, I don't see why you couldn't use Polo 6N rear beam and change hubs/ disks etc... maybe it doesn't have the standard anti roll bar?? There was a thread on another forum which listed a lot of parts which are same throughout the VAG range.

 

[joehirth]

To keep things tidy:

It's got MK2 Golf wishbones, MK3 Golf wishbones are longer.

beam is the same as:
Polo 00-02
Polo Classic 96-03
Cordoba 97-02
97-02 Ibiza

If you just want stub axles (they're sided), can get em from:
99-06 Lupo
95-02 Polo
97-02 Polo Classic
97-04 Arosa
97-02 Cordoba
97-02 Ibiza

edit: also its not a proper G60 roll bar, its a SEAT specific part. Same fitment as a MK3 or G60 bar depends which one it is (MK3 bar is thicker in the middle so has different inner bushes, G60 tapers in so uses normal mk2 bushes)
The 23mm one is near enough a G60 bar though, but not all of them had it. Theres a range of arbs avail from 18mm to 23mm.

edit2:
6K5 411 309 - 20mm bar - 38.19+VAT (uses MK2 inner bush)
6K0 411 309 A - 23mm bar 'for sports type running gear' - 40.44+VAT (uses MK3 inner bush)

there are a few other part numbers with varying prices, but the 2 above are the cheaper ones and so the only ones worth having!



Found on ED38, http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=259228

 

[tstrahonja]

Thanx for reply, ive found rear beam from polo year 2000., everythng seems exactly the same

 

[m0rk]

Check the stub axle mounts - IIRC that's where the difference lay (certainly on the Mk2 to Mk3 Ibiza)

 

[tstrahonja]

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Would this be stub axle mount?
IF so, it is exactly the same shape, holes, width, height as this one on the picture( my ibiza)
Only difference is that on polo's beam there is a drum, not disc.