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Ive just ordered some chemical guys xxx paste and have some Auto Glym EGP from way back that ive never used so will be trying it out to see how it compares to p21s
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i use dimond brite on mine its a two stage paint sealer eg hardener and wax and its s##t hot, dealers charge 200 to get it put on , u can buy it off ebay from 3.50! big differance!!!!
I use collinite 476s on my cupra, from what I have read on any of the detailing forum's it is possibly the most durable wax you can get.
Gives a really nice shine and reflection and water refuses to stick to it, I have two coats on my car for the winter.
Its not too expensive either, think its around £17.
I've tried zymol titanium, meguiars, autoglym and the collinite seems far better.
The zymol did look slightly better but only lasted a couple of months.
Cheers,
Neil.
Gives a really nice shine and reflection and water refuses to stick to it, I have two coats on my car for the winter.
Its not too expensive either, think its around £17.
I've tried zymol titanium, meguiars, autoglym and the collinite seems far better.
The zymol did look slightly better but only lasted a couple of months.
Cheers,
Neil.
Remember the EGP goes on first, followed by the wax - not the other way around because it will not bond properly.
After lots of good reports of the Collinite 476s, ordered some last night (along with Poorboys EX-P sealant) for some lasting winter protection.
Thought i'd dig this one up as today's the first time i've waxed my car since i started this thread 
Hadn't got round to buying a new wax so it was a choice of scraping the dregs outs of my P21S or using my Natty's Blue Paste Wax that i used to use on the Cupra.
Well... the Natty's does a pretty decent job. I'd say looks at least as good as the P21S after only one coat on freshly polished paint. Unfortunately there is no proper light to really see how good it looks, but i think i'm gonna stick with the Natty's for a while and build up a few layers.
Hadn't got round to buying a new wax so it was a choice of scraping the dregs outs of my P21S or using my Natty's Blue Paste Wax that i used to use on the Cupra.
Well... the Natty's does a pretty decent job. I'd say looks at least as good as the P21S after only one coat on freshly polished paint. Unfortunately there is no proper light to really see how good it looks, but i think i'm gonna stick with the Natty's for a while and build up a few layers.
On silver you can end up "Muting" the flake popping when you use a Carnuaba wax.
Acrylic materials are best on silver, like Klasse Sealant Glaze or Glanz wax.......
This is my brothers pug done with Glanz wax.
http://www.cleanandshiny.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=9930
Acrylic materials are best on silver, like Klasse Sealant Glaze or Glanz wax.......
This is my brothers pug done with Glanz wax.
http://www.cleanandshiny.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=9930
Acyrlics?
As i know even less about them than i do waxes, what's the differance in real terms?
Why do they 'mute' silvers less and are they any longer or shorter lasting in terms of protection?
First i've heard of 'em in terms of shining up cars TBH. Everyone always talks about waxes
As i know even less about them than i do waxes, what's the differance in real terms?
Why do they 'mute' silvers less and are they any longer or shorter lasting in terms of protection?
First i've heard of 'em in terms of shining up cars TBH. Everyone always talks about waxes
When I say Acrylic, it also applys to Synthetic, like Megs NXT.
It partly depends on how long you want the shine to last, CARNUABA is great for that super wet shine you can get on darker colours, trouble is it only lasts a few weeks at most. On lighter colours, like silver it can cause "yellowing" whcih dampens the metallic flakes popping through
Acrylic/synthetics last longer, up to 6mths in some cases, but compaired to CARNUABA they dont give off such a wet look, but, on silver its hard to acheive the wet look, & Acrylic/synthetics allow the metallic flakes to catch the light & "pop" their reflections, as well as providing a great long lasting glossy shine.
The best value Carnuaba wax I can recomend is either P21S if you on a budget, or Pinnicle Souveran wax, if you want a really wet deep shine.
You'll also get more out of it if you a pre wax glaze too, like Clearkote vanilla moose hand glaze, its a super fine polish which will help hide any swirls too..
This is Pinnicle Souveran wax over Clearkote vanilla moose hand glaze.. (I think the car had done about 90,000 when this was took)
It partly depends on how long you want the shine to last, CARNUABA is great for that super wet shine you can get on darker colours, trouble is it only lasts a few weeks at most. On lighter colours, like silver it can cause "yellowing" whcih dampens the metallic flakes popping through
Acrylic/synthetics last longer, up to 6mths in some cases, but compaired to CARNUABA they dont give off such a wet look, but, on silver its hard to acheive the wet look, & Acrylic/synthetics allow the metallic flakes to catch the light & "pop" their reflections, as well as providing a great long lasting glossy shine.
The best value Carnuaba wax I can recomend is either P21S if you on a budget, or Pinnicle Souveran wax, if you want a really wet deep shine.
You'll also get more out of it if you a pre wax glaze too, like Clearkote vanilla moose hand glaze, its a super fine polish which will help hide any swirls too..
This is Pinnicle Souveran wax over Clearkote vanilla moose hand glaze.. (I think the car had done about 90,000 when this was took)
I'd always read that Megs NXT wasn't very long lasting? Does that mean that the 'shine' fades quickly but that it is still protecting the paint for a long time?
In summer (the only time i care how shiny my car is) i wax it pretty much every week so using something that 'fades' quickly isn't a problem.
If i use Megs NXT is it gonna protect my car through winter with a few layers built up and 1 or 2 top ups?
My requirements for a wax/acrylic are:
- It's cheap (<£20).
- It makes Silver look as good as is reasonable.
- It continues to protect the paint as much as possible in winter when i can't be arsed to freeze to top it up.
Any one factor will be comprimised by the others, but what is the best product to cover all the bases as best as possible?
In summer (the only time i care how shiny my car is) i wax it pretty much every week so using something that 'fades' quickly isn't a problem.
If i use Megs NXT is it gonna protect my car through winter with a few layers built up and 1 or 2 top ups?
My requirements for a wax/acrylic are:
- It's cheap (<£20).
- It makes Silver look as good as is reasonable.
- It continues to protect the paint as much as possible in winter when i can't be arsed to freeze to top it up.
Any one factor will be comprimised by the others, but what is the best product to cover all the bases as best as possible?
After a bit of reading on various sites and purchasing chemical guys xxx wax, which i dont think is as easy to work with as p21s I purchased Klasse sealant glaze. Like Jace said you get a better flake pop with the sealant. If u want u can still top it with a wax though not needed on silver
Quite fancy trying the Jeffs range next but where do you stop
Quite fancy trying the Jeffs range next but where do you stop
Following on from what Jace has said, acrylic sealants are man made polymers, and are made to last. Klasse All In One, followed by 2 layers of Klasse Superguard will give long lasting protection.
A sealant will generally promote a sharp, crisp reflection with excellent wet look shine. Some people prefer that to the carnuba wax which tends to give a slightly warmer feel to the colour. The sealant would indeed be a nice choice on the silver. The muting of the flake with the wax is a very slight effect, but still visible - its due to the carnuba in most products being 'yellow' carnuba, as opposed to the frightenly scary price 'white' carnuba products, which lessen the effect.
NXT is not going to last through the winter. If you want a apply & forget product, again a good combination would be the two Klasse products, followed by a layer of Collinite 476s. They will resist being washed off by detergents, and give you a genuine 4-5+ months protection for your paint. Then when it comes to better weather you can swap to something that doesn't last as long - if you want to keep topping it up.
A sealant will generally promote a sharp, crisp reflection with excellent wet look shine. Some people prefer that to the carnuba wax which tends to give a slightly warmer feel to the colour. The sealant would indeed be a nice choice on the silver. The muting of the flake with the wax is a very slight effect, but still visible - its due to the carnuba in most products being 'yellow' carnuba, as opposed to the frightenly scary price 'white' carnuba products, which lessen the effect.
NXT is not going to last through the winter. If you want a apply & forget product, again a good combination would be the two Klasse products, followed by a layer of Collinite 476s. They will resist being washed off by detergents, and give you a genuine 4-5+ months protection for your paint. Then when it comes to better weather you can swap to something that doesn't last as long - if you want to keep topping it up.
NXT is a "Cleaner wax" so it removes any oxidation & also fills any little micro swirls, I found it lasts about a month max in liquid form, the paste version lasts a little longer, well about a week longer.
For maximum shine & reflection within your budget (just over it TBH) I'd go for this combination,
Clearkote Vanilla Moose Wax Hand Glaze
http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/Products,53,toView_80.html
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #16 Paste Wax
http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/Products,51,toView_150.html
If you were willing to stretch a little further, well, the world is your oyster..... Such combo's as what Reg suggests KLASE TWINS & COLLINTE 476, or if you can stretch, 915 gives an even better wet shine, on black any..
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I been using sealant for over a year an a half now, i just order some new stuff last week from polish bliss , Jeffs werkstall Acrylic Jett Kits which made my silver leon look good, on my old silver polo gti i used CG m-sealant and CG xxx hardcore wax ,which also gave a good affect to the paint work , here is a few pics of each . sorry if the first 2 pics are too large
cheers Kenny
cheers Kenny
could someone explain what the difference between a wax, sealer and glaze is?
Previously I've used:
Zymol wash, megs scratch-x, megs deep crystal polish and megs gold class synthetic wax with a wool mitt and 2 buckets etc!
Previously I've used:
Zymol wash, megs scratch-x, megs deep crystal polish and megs gold class synthetic wax with a wool mitt and 2 buckets etc!
A glaze is a little bit like a skin moisturiser for your car. It puts nourishing oils back into your paint which help to deepen the colour and enhance the shine. A glaze doesn't really offer much in the way or lasting protection, so is a bling thing mainly.
A sealant is a synthetic protectant (i.e. man made). They usually offer good durable protection, sometimes have UV inhibitors to help resist fading and damage from sunlight. Some people like the effect of a sealant on its own, the reflection tends to be very sharp and glossy, although colours don't appear with the same warmth and wetness as wax.
Pure wax, carnuba wax in this case (as opposed to the all-in-one type cleaner waxes like Zymol and Meguiars do) will help make the paint look wet, will 'warm' the colour and give further protection. Generally doesn't last anywhere near as long as a sealant (apart from Collinite) so needs to be topped up regularly. Best of both worlds is to use a combination of products, like a glaze then a wax, or a sealant then a wax.
From your list there, Megs Step 2 Deep Crystal Polish is in fact a glaze - its not abrasive at all. Its a good product but is misleading in its description.
A sealant is a synthetic protectant (i.e. man made). They usually offer good durable protection, sometimes have UV inhibitors to help resist fading and damage from sunlight. Some people like the effect of a sealant on its own, the reflection tends to be very sharp and glossy, although colours don't appear with the same warmth and wetness as wax.
Pure wax, carnuba wax in this case (as opposed to the all-in-one type cleaner waxes like Zymol and Meguiars do) will help make the paint look wet, will 'warm' the colour and give further protection. Generally doesn't last anywhere near as long as a sealant (apart from Collinite) so needs to be topped up regularly. Best of both worlds is to use a combination of products, like a glaze then a wax, or a sealant then a wax.
From your list there, Megs Step 2 Deep Crystal Polish is in fact a glaze - its not abrasive at all. Its a good product but is misleading in its description.
Thanks for that Reg, it seems a bit of a minefield! Looks like I need to find a real polish and then do some experimentation with different waxes!
Cheers
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