Seat leon 110tdi

[SEAT leon 007]

Hello there guys, Got a feeling my turbo is about to go it a 110 tdi (non pd ), so i will be purchasing a new turbo but will consider going for a bigger one if it fits staright on??? Will the 150tdi turbo fit?

 

[allh2k]

I beleive it does but I'm not sure if a remap is 100% needed or if it can wait a bit.... I guess it would be required at some point and then you might as well decat/bigger injectors and a few other £££ mods to get the most out of the remap

 

[JamesL]

My gut instinct is to say no - whilst I believe the block is the same on the 2 engines, they are pretty radically different in terms of most other things, namely the fact that the 110 is not PD and the 150 is!

Having said that, I am no expert by any stretch!

Why do you think your turbo is going by the way?

 

[Leon2012]

Hi,

The PD150 turbo will bolt on, but you need the big red PD150 turbo hose too.

With a bigger turbo, you'd also need bigger injector nozzles and a remap to suit.

 

[Robbo92]

hi.
im not saying your turbo dosn't need replacing, but a common problem is they start to stick and need to be properly cleaned out. what year is your Leon? there are two types of turbo's for the 110. i think yours is a veriable vein. i would suggest you remove it, strip your turbo down and get in cleaned out before buying one straight away. (this is a previous problem i had with mine)
just a suggestion.
Robbo.

 

[Leon2012]

there are two types of turbo's for the 110. i think yours is a veriable vein

As far as I'm aware the 110 has only one type of turbo, a Garrett GT1749V, aka. "VNT-15".

The wastegate turbo I think you're referring to is on the 90 BHP TDI with ALH engine.

 

[Muttley]

Correct. The major difference between the TDI 90 (1Z, AGR, AHU)and the TDI 110 (ASV, AHF, AVG) is the turbo - wastegate on the 90, VNT (variable nozzle technology) on the 110.

To be strictly accurate, the very last TDI 90's built (the ALH engine) do have VNT turbos but smaller injectors.

If you change the turbo to another type you will need a remap to go with it, especially if you use the TDI 150 turbo, the 150 uses much higher boost.

 

[allh2k]

So 150 turbo £700 + remap £500 + 200 injectors + 100 pipes n stuff + 800 clutch + decat + handling n brakes for the new power £3000 should do it?

 

[SEAT leon 007]

When you guys mention bigger injectors which car model are the off? and are the just simply changing the old for the new one. I dont wanna be changing any wiring or additional stuff?

 

[d1n93r]

Well I was talking to the guys at auto tune as I have the same car as yourself. They were going to put a bigger wheel in the turbo and bore it out. Put the bigger .216 injectors and a re map for about a grand. As far as the clutch Sachs clutch and flywheel is 250 + fitting and u should be set for around 180 or so.

 

[SEAT leon 007]

Injectors. c

Well I was talking to the guys at auto tune as I have the same car as yourself. They were going to put a bigger wheel in the turbo and bore it out. Put the bigger .216 injectors and a re map for about a grand. As far as the clutch Sachs clutch and flywheel is 250 + fitting and u should be set for around 180 or so.

Regarding bigger injectors ive asked a mechanic about the referred .216 injector and they aren't sure. Is this injector of another engine if so which one?

Also is changing the injectors to bigger ones striaght forward i.e. replacing only..

 

[Leon2012]

Forget all that, it's all old redundant technology, 10-15 years old+

The TDI tuning scene has moved on since PD150/GT1749VB turbos and T4 injectors, with a ropey remap 'to suit'.

Spending 3 grand on old stuff, which is a mild upgrade in power at best, is a waste of time, effort and money IMO.

There's a saying that you shouldn't build a car you can buy.

That said, if you want a Cupra or FR TDI spec car, sell your 110 and buy one, as that's what you'll end up with, and selling a Cupra/FR is easier than a modified 110 (or a standard 110 + parts + labour costs to remove the mods again).


If you wanted to really put that 3K to good use & see what proper power is about, you'll need the following:

A new GTB1756VK turbo with TIG welded manifold+flange for £730
PD150 turbo hose £50

Get R520 injectors for £270
Pop testing+calibration for injectors £100

11mm injection pump £500

Southbend SBC Stage 2 Endurance Silent SMF clutch £600
2.5-3" downpipe and decat £150


Get Mark at Malone Tuning in the USA to send you a FlashZilla remap device, and he will email you new remaps - he is one of the best TDI tuners/remappers in the world and his maps are much better than current UK ones, around £400 (I forget exactly).


Total £2800


You'll also need uprated engine mounts to avoid wheelspin and an uprated intercooler (either a larger SMIC or a FMIC), and a PD lift pump could be good too for higher revs.

Add labour, and the extra bits, and it's not that much more than 3 grand, but the money is a LOT better spent, and you would really appreciate the power difference, plus you could sell those newer technology parts a lot easier than outdated stuff.

 

[Leon2012]

BTW: A GTB1756VK is 3rd generation turbo technology and will spool as fast as your stock turbo, delivering a large dose of power with no lag....way more powerful than a PD150/GT1749VB turbo.

 

[d1n93r]

T4 ones from a van. Leon2012 does have a point. I was between building and buying. But already have put money into the car so build it is. Ur talking at least 2k to upgrade to a fr depending on the miles on ur car and ur prob gonna go to something with more miles as there are very few low mile ones left. Or u can mod on and be proud to have built her and have the same power as a moded fr. Really up to urself. But I'll just be going for a 140 map till the turbo pops then look at a bigger one. Should b enough for now