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Thought I'd better do a bit of research. Well according to Google AI scraping the Cupra sites it's coming to all as the title goes and certainly on the Raval.


I did say on @Syphon review of the Raval I'd better look at some YouTube videos. Well you can peak over the wall and see it's implementation in the US to get a measure of that you are getting. Basically Android OS in the car with apps in a walled garden.

Probably a good starter overview by one of the development companies that services the industry:


So no more trailing cables and WiFi connecting and power pad thingies to give you Android Auto it's built in the car for starters. You can get Car Play on it thou.

This is four years ago so car manufacturers and software developers have been able to sort out the bumps:


Well that was a video by 9 to 5 Google.

Technical Jeff has something on the developers menu but I would not get too excited about that, it will probably be out of bounds but any one familiar with the developers menu in Android knows about it. The video above he never got in it, below he stumbled in. Wasn't locked down.


There is more recent stuff by Technical Joe on American cars on YouTube. The use of the PlayStore library. YouTube in it but only accessible if stationary etc.

This one covers a "major software update" so Cupra owners can expect something similar when the time arises, not too dissimilar to the current:


Not sure what the relationship will be to Here Maps now that was used in mib2 high / mib3 / 4 but you could use Android maps instead or Car Play. The car used Here Maps for regenerative predictive braking knowing the cartography of the road. Whether that will be the case for the Cupra / Seat pass - obviously regenerative breaking but where the cartography comes from in it's use ?. Whether that relationship is over or not pass on that between Here Maps being the defacto internal car data. Have to have a look at a Raval to see whether there is any sign of Here Maps cartography in it. May be it runs both. Who knows. Poor dealer will have me looking :ROFLMAO:.

So yes a movement to more industry standards so something to look forwards to in the refreshed Cupras and new models. Pass on whether the Seat side will see this, something to check.
 
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I started another general thread which covers the technical aspects. Basically VAG have adopted the BMW approach to their 8.5 and 9 OS releases. AAOS without GIS. I was intrigued by whether they had rejected Here Maps cartography but took me onto the other aspects of the app library and not using Google services. It's like the Fire TV v Android TV. BMW picked Fire TV so in good company ;).

Doesn't use Google services but is Android based. Will use an app library looked after by Harman with developers submitting their apps (like Spotify etc). Presumably this is the approach that is used where Android Automotive is used without Google Information Services across the industry where the headend is Harman.

Described as:

Ready Link Marketplace is an in-vehicle app store built on Android Automotive OS, giving drivers easy access to their favorite digital content through an intuitive, unified interface. It helps automakers and developers create personalized experiences that generate new revenue streams. Unlike other platforms, OEMs stay in control of the app catalog, store design, and customer relationships.

So there we have it. What we know now:


Basically you are driving a media / streamer player 👍. Video is when you are stationary.
 
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I'd still rather the car be "dumb" and use the phone for connectivity/mirroring. I have little faith that manufacturers will maintain and continue with security updates for the entire life of the car - it's taken a LONG time to even get phone manufacturers to promise more than 5 years of updates, I don't see car makers doing 10-15 years or more...
 
Well it will be like mib2 and mib1 just no more firmware updates. Ditto mib3, one suspects although we aren't their yet. It's the apps in the app store of Android Automotive that wont get updated after a period or vanish, then you would be back to your phone if need be. It will work without the optional apps. Will be a bit like smart TVs where the broadcaster ceases to support the internet apps but you can still watch TV or slap a box on the side for streaming, the Smartphone for the car. The logic is closer integration with the car. A bit unproven though and being outside of the Google store may be hindering. We'll see.

The dolby Atmos surround sound rather than the pseudo surround one could be a candidate for one of the apps. Smart cars got that. The "Sennheiser’s Ambeo Concerto software" which I don't reckon Cupras have not got that yet, just the immersive. A possible candidate add on and streaming services via the AAOS apps.

 
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