Tuning boxes vs Remap

[aidiewright]

Just wondering what everyone's opinion's are on these?

I wanna get a bit more out my 57 plate FR

Which route would you go down and what are peoples experiences with both?

 

[george g]

My understanding is that both will create more soot (because on a real basic level they shove more fuel in) thus it will clog the DPF sooner - so in both cases a DPF removal is advised.

There are various people on here running both of them with varying results from what I have read - even some running the CR engine and Tuning box with DPF in place.

My personal opinion is that the tuning box modifies the map signal from the ECU so can only really do a really basic power increase modification where as the remap can finely tune the Map to be correct at all times. It also helps that a lot of companies offer both a DPF removal and Remap in one bundle that isnt much more expensive than just having one of them done...

EDIT:

Sorry, I made the assumption you have a Diesel... is it a Diesel you want remapping?

 

[paul_zx6r]

Just wondering what everyone's opinion's are on these?

I wanna get a bit more out my 57 plate FR

Which route would you go down and what are peoples experiences with both?

Just get a dpf delete plus remap, there is a few companies people recommend on here including shark, darkside, p torque etc, have a search around

 

[aidiewright]

My understanding is that both will create more soot (because on a real basic level they shove more fuel in) thus it will clog the DPF sooner - so in both cases a DPF removal is advised.

There are various people on here running both of them with varying results from what I have read - even some running the CR engine and Tuning box with DPF in place.

My personal opinion is that the tuning box modifies the map signal from the ECU so can only really do a really basic power increase modification where as the remap can finely tune the Map to be correct at all times. It also helps that a lot of companies offer both a DPF removal and Remap in one bundle that isnt much more expensive than just having one of them done...

EDIT:

Sorry, I made the assumption you have a Diesel... is it a Diesel you want remapping?

Cheers for the info mate, I take it I'm going to be looking at around £350?

And yeah mine Diesel mate.

 

[paul_zx6r]

Cheers for the info mate, I take it I'm going to be looking at around £350?

And yeah mine Diesel mate.

More like £700 for a dfp delete and remap mate

 

[aidiewright]

Bloody Hell wasn't expecting it to be that much! Won't be happening for a while then haha! If I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna to do it right!

 

[paul_zx6r]

There is a saying on here "pay cheap pay twice"

 

[GlanzaV]

My understanding is that both will create more soot (because on a real basic level they shove more fuel in) thus it will clog the DPF sooner - so in both cases a DPF removal is advised.

Hmmmm... not really. The map also increases boost so the increase in fuelling is to compensate and you still get a comparible A/F ratio. That's the basics of all turbo tuning, more air with more fuel = more power.

 

[Darth Revan]

I'm running a tuning box on my CR with the DPF still in place. I get very good results (on paper AND on the road) which match a Stage 2 remapped CR with DPF removed.

 

[jmc1976]

I have remap with DPF in place and had no problems as yet , I would leave it in ,if the DPF starts playing up then get it taken out .

 

[aidiewright]

I have remap with DPF in place and had no problems as yet , I would leave it in ,if the DPF starts playing up then get it taken out .

How much was your remap? And what you running at now?

 

[jmc1976]

How much was your remap? And what you running at now?

£300 for the map 205 BHP 420NM torque
Done by Phil at vtune leeds 01132791122 ,07881634202
im really happy with the results from it and I know a few people who have his remaps .

 

[James_R]

£300 for the map 205 BHP 420NM torque
Done by Phil at vtune leeds 01132791122 ,07881634202
im really happy with the results from it and I know a few people who have his remaps .

The OP is on about a PD not a CR, they're a different kettle of fish regarding the DPF.

 

[jmc1976]

so it is ,yeah didn't spot was a 57 plate ,probably best to remove it in that case as the pd wasn't built to have a dpf originally

 

[James_R]

so it is ,yeah didn't spot was a 57 plate ,probably best to remove it in that case as the pd wasn't built to have a dpf originally

Agreed!

 

[aidiewright]

Cheers, What about if I got rid of the DPF first and then got remap later?

Would I see any changes without DPF?

 

[aidiewright]

I've just seen this on eBay and these are literally 12 miles away from me!

Has anyone got any opinions? Too good to be true?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seat-Leon-FR-2-0-TDi-ECU-DPF-Removal-Decat-Exhaust-Package-Rolling-Road-/221301890104?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item33869edc38

 

[paul_zx6r]

I would recommend you go to a trusted company but its your money, if you haven't already do a search on here about what companies people have used

 

[shnazzle]

Cheers, What about if I got rid of the DPF first and then got remap later?

Would I see any changes without DPF?

DPF off without mapping it out of the ECU will eventually lead to error codes. Possibly quite quickly even. I know some people on here have made it to their mapping place without codes after removing the DPF themselves

Best just do it all in one go at a reputable tuner

 

[aidiewright]

I would recommend you go to a trusted company but its your money, if you haven't already do a search on here about what companies people have used

DPF off without mapping it out of the ECU will eventually lead to error codes. Possibly quite quickly even. I know some people on here have made it to their mapping place without codes after removing the DPF themselves

Best just do it all in one go at a reputable tuner

Cheers lads, will be listening to your words of wisdom!