Tuning cupra handling.

[Poko]

Hi all,
I am a new member to this forum from israel.
just bought a new cupra (pre facelift) and will get it soon. it will be in a really unique color which is matt black , i will post some pics once i get it.

until i get it i got the importers demo car and have been driving it for several days.

although i really like the car , the handling is not very balanced.

there is a lot of understeer in sharp corners and the tail is not very happy to play along.

i would like to find a way to eliminate as possible the understeer and make the tail much more happy.

i talked with my local tuning shop and they suggested KW V2 , they claim it will make it much more like the gti.

can anyone recommend me what is the way to go ? what suspension ? LSD ?

many thanks.

 

[Poverty]

What country are you from?

Diff
WALK

And decent tyres will make a good change.

 

[Poko]

I am from israel.

i plan on moving the tires to toyo 888

what is WALK ?

 

[Carr20vt]

I am from israel.

i plan on moving the tires to toyo 888

what is WALK ?

Here mate: http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=11788

 

[Poko]

does that really help ? anyone have real experience with it ?

also , do i combine this with aftermarket suspension like the KW ?

 

[ares]

An anti-roll/sway bar kit will improve the handling of the Cupra greatly. Go for H&R's or APR's kits and use soft setting for the front and hard setting for the rear. This will reduce much of the under-steer. A coil-over kit is also recommended.

 

[DamianPM]

A lot of Cupra owners run the Koni FSD's with the Eibach Sportline springs. This seems to deliver a well balanced and handling car yet still retains comfort.

For more oversteer a larger rear ARB is a good option with the Whiteline adjustable being a good choice as you can tweak it to how you want.

As mentioned the Whiteline Anti Lift kit is also a good adition and really sharpens up the turning.

Damian @ DPM Performance

 

[Poko]

that sounds like a good solution.

there is no whiteline distributer in israel , so i guess i will just order from the uk or pick it up once i am in the uk (tend to be on business around 6-10 times a year).

is the whiteline anti lift kit difficult to install ?

i preffer to buy non adjustable or have someone in the uk pre-adjust because local tuning shops will most probably mess the handling completly if they can play with it.

as for the KONI/Eibach combo , does it ride more comfortly or harser than the original setup (which is quite harsh) ? is it a better option compared with KW.

i am really not looking for drastic lowering of the car, i care really about the handling.

 

[DamianPM]

Delivery isn't a problem, we send items all around the world everyday.

Have a look at the video in the link below for more info on the WALK.

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/whi...fsi-fr-20t-si-20tdi-fr-20tdi-0504-p-3620.html

Damian @ DPM Performance

 

[Poko]

that can be a great idea.

but about the video , i really see only a pic , not a video.

 

[DamianPM]

It's the part that says:

"To see the Whiteline anti lift kit installed on a Volkswagen Golf 5 GTi 2.0T FSi, please click here."

Just click on 'here'.

Damian @ DPM Performance

 

[Tfsi_Mike]

Ive got a WALK sat waiting to be fitted. Any one with experience know if it makes the steering heavier? Want it to feel a bit more 'weighted' like the Golf Gti loan car i had a few weeks ago

Cheers

 

[GainfulShrimp]

I might be wrong but I thought you could adjust the steering 'feel' to be heavier using vag-com? I'm sure I read it in a review when I was first researching Leons before I bought mine...

 

[Tfsi_Mike]

I might be wrong but I thought you could adjust the steering 'feel' to be heavier using vag-com? I'm sure I read it in a review when I was first researching Leons before I bought mine...

I also remember that, I cant imagine it having a great enough effect but if someone has experienced othrwise Id love to hear it! Mine just feels really assisted and light

 

[jon-tfsi]

The Leon stylance I had as a courtesy car had much sharper steering response than my TFSI Sport.
I think maybe the Vagcom settings for the steering may have been different.
All I know is the steering was WAY more sensitive.
I quite liked it and would like to try adjusting the steering weight on mine to somewhere similar.
With Vagcom it can be adjusted from 1 - 6

 

[k1_kid]

Get some Eibach wheel spacers for the back, 5mm each side helps a lot...

 

[Tfsi_Mike]

Get some Eibach wheel spacers for the back, 5mm each side helps a lot...

What difference id you feel mate? Sounds good

 

[vRSy]

I also remember that, I cant imagine it having a great enough effect but if someone has experienced othrwise Id love to hear it! Mine just feels really assisted and light

it only makes it slightly heavier mike, mine is only slightly more weighty than yours.

adding the other bush to the other side of your lower control mount will also help a bit, but ultimately to get stiffer steering response you want to get additional caster angle on your wheels.

if you got the whitleine Max C top mounts, which can be adjusted to give either more caster or more camber.

more additional caster is the perfect setup for road. it'll give you heavier steering, quicker response, and a more direct feel. more caster also equals an increase in dynamic camber on turn in much the same as the walk but on a higher level.

If yor on track all the time its camber you want.

 

[k1_kid]

What difference id you feel mate? Sounds good

Feels a lot better taking it around the corner back end doesn't feel as twitchy mate, only £60ish!

Don't suppose you got your Revo map done in Whitley Bay by any chance??