Anybody here running EBC 'Greenstuff' pads on their LCR?

[Ruddmeister]

I don't know how you drive, but theres something wrong when one wears out discs and pads that often...

I drove my Hot Hatch how it was designed to be driven.......hard, otherwise I would have chosen to drive a Nissan Micra

Pads and discs can be consumed quicker if you throw in the odd track day etc too

 

[Ruddmeister]

Hi all,

I recently replaced the front pads on me LCR with normal Mintex one's.

These are ok - But they don't bite as well as the original SEAT / Brembo pads...

I was thinking of trying EBC Greenstuff pads - Has anybody here tried 'em?

...infact - Does EBC even make Greenstuff Pads for the LCR?

Thanks

OK here is an offer for you..............or possibly another LCR owner who is willing

IF you pay for postage and don't mind some extra brake dust I will send you free of charge some half worn

Performance Friction Carbon Metallic pads (we are talking £180 a pair new)

In return all I ask is that you

A - Fit them to your car
B - Come back to this thread and write a detailed comparison to the other pads you tried......as a comparison cheap pads to expensive

 

[STEVEO@CYMRU]

im running red stuff on my LC and i cant fault them , first touch good second touch awesome

 

[lc_allan]

Rudd got any of that Grolsch going in the background?

 

[Ruddmeister]

Rudd got any of that Grolsch going in the background?

LOL I offer free brake pads and now people want my beer too that stuff is long gone.........I think I only have Becks and Peroni at the moment.......and to save you asking...NO!

 

[UncleFester]

im running red stuff on my LC and i cant fault them , first touch good second touch awesome

I had no problem with 1st and 2nd use, it was when you extended that use to third, fourth and fifth times that the problems started.

Third heavy application there was fade.
Fourth heavy application fade and stiff pedal
Fifth use whether light or heavy, no pedal travel and NO brakes.

Once you do that a couple of times the pads have well and truly screwed your discs.

DS2500 haven't gone bad on me yet and i'm definitely not driving more carefully and that's using 4 pot calipers which will exert more pressure on the pads.

 

[virdi]

Thanks for the offer Rudd - But I think Carbon Metallic might be to hard on my Standard discs.

 

[Ruddmeister]

Thanks for the offer Rudd - But I think Carbon Metallic might be to hard on my Standard discs.

They were fine on my std disks but ok

 

[virdi]

..isn't it bad practice to fit used brake pads?

...as in - they've already been 'bed in' to another disk etc...?

..or is that just a myth? lol

 

[ibizacupra]

myth - but it will take a little longer to bed in yes


Greenstuff are not for LCR... EBC dont advise this themselves.. but suggest red or even yellow.

I have run yellows on my racecar and they sucked.. terrible feel and not much bite no matter what temp they were and mullared the disk faces badly.

I use DS2500 on Mrsb lupo and DS3000 Ferodo's on my ibiza. Very hard act to beat. superb bite, not unkind to disks and put up with significant abuse.

EBC friction material does not work as well as DS2500/3000 nor close in my own use and experience.

 

[virdi]

What brand are the standard Original pads? For the LCR...

Are they made by Brembo? or ATE?

 

[v-g]

I had no problem with 1st and 2nd use, it was when you extended that use to third, fourth and fifth times that the problems started.

Third heavy application there was fade.
Fourth heavy application fade and stiff pedal
Fifth use whether light or heavy, no pedal travel and NO brakes.

You're not exaggerating a bit there? A little bit? No brakes after five applications? Was this on OEM discs? Don't remember.

I've not experienced any of that on my drilled and grooved Black Diamond discs and EBC Red Stuff pads.

I'm not favouring EBC. Ferodo is cheaper over here and that's what's waiting to be fitted next. I only find it a bit weird... Not Ferodo, but the fading thing.

 

[UncleFester]

You're not exaggerating a bit there? A little bit? No brakes after five applications? Was this on OEM discs? Don't remember.

I've not experienced any of that on my drilled and grooved Black Diamond discs and EBC Red Stuff pads.

I'm not favouring EBC. Ferodo is cheaper over here and that's what's waiting to be fitted next. I only find it a bit weird... Not Ferodo, but the fading thing.

Stock discs then EBC Discs then ATE power discs - the end result was the same. Knackered within 500 miles.

 

[kernowcupra]

green stuff pads are the same rating as ferrodo, they are both above OE speck and obviously the redstuff pads are better again and yellowstuff better then that, i always thought mintex were a budget range pad???

 

[virdi]

Mintex is usually 'ok' stuff....

 

[kernowcupra]

well we dont stock mintex where i work anyhow they werent so good we stock the ferrodos

 

[ibizacupra]

What brand are the standard Original pads? For the LCR...

Are they made by Brembo? or ATE?

Galfer

 

[ibizacupra]

green stuff pads are the same rating as ferrodo, they are both above OE speck and obviously the redstuff pads are better again and yellowstuff better then that, i always thought mintex were a budget range pad???

Chap. You cant compare a specific pad type with a general pad make..

ferodo what??? DS, DS2500, DS3000 etc etc etc

Greenstuff are NOT in the same league as DS2500, DS3000 nor even close.

EBC themselves dont advise fitting these to heavy/powerful cars - too soft.

I have run their greens previously, gone in 1k miles on my ibiza when running 280mm std size brakes.
Yellow stuff, abysmal in race use compared to DS3000, and terrible high wear on disks also.

 

[v-g]

Galfer

I suppose you know that?
I ran Galfer floating rotors on one of my short time MC-projects, and back then they were rated very high.
Maybe they have a poor, good and best type of range or just a OEM range. I don't know.
It just surprised me to hear that something we don't rate very highly, rated very highly in the MC-days.

 

[ibizacupra]

I suppose you know that?
I ran Galfer floating rotors on one of my short time MC-projects, and back then they were rated very high.
Maybe they have a poor, good and best type of range or just a OEM range. I don't know.
It just surprised me to hear that something we don't rate very highly, rated very highly in the MC-days.

Yea I spose I do know that
I have sold dozens of brembo brake kits, and the pads sold with new brembo GT junior caliper are made by Galfer..


Galfer being just a make of course, not mentioning any specific pad compound, of which there are several.

There was a Galfer GB on here a year or more back, and the feedback in use was not all that great as I recall. Some severe disk wear reported by some of the pad choices.

DS2500's are superb as are DS3000's in grip terms, and disk wear terms.
I have run Pagid RS pads, and Performance Friction Carbon Metallics. Great stopping, hash dust and rapid disk wear.

When people "rate" them its platform specific I think. What works on a light, low powered car does'nt neccessarily work as well in a heavier more powerful car... The brand might make alternate pads which "could" do, but then most people seem to refer to pads by make as often as specific pad type so a mintex is'nt one pad any more than a ferodo is, or a pagid or an ebc etc etc