seat ibiza sc fr 2.0 cr tdi

[bundy1981]

Evening,

I currently own a 1.4 sc sport ibiza. However the local dealer has just registered a fr 2.0 tdi in speed blue. As far as I am aware there are no additional extras and they have given me 1st refusal on the car when they sell in about 8-10 weeks. I am wondering a couple of points

1. the car is expected to have about 4k-5k mile on the clock when they sell. What price would people expect the dealer to sell for I need them to get to about £14k ?


2. What are current fr owners views on the fr 2.0 cr tdi in realtion to ride comfort, fuel economy etc Id like to know as I owned the mk4 ibiza fr and found the ride very harsh ?


cheers

 

[WeeG]

I have driven a mk5 tdi fr ibiza, and have had a mapped mk4fr tdi also. Ibiza mk5 is more refined, personally not as good handling, not as good on fuel as mk4 but quieter. Not very urgent, and without a shadow of a doubt not as fast as a mk4. I was personally disappointed!

 

[robin cur]

a lot quicker than your 14 sport

 

[DEAN0]

I like mine. I went from a MK4 130TDi sport.

The MK5 is quite deceptive because it FEELS slower than my MK4 - however in real world driving it is just as quick. ( you do need to watch the speedo in 30 and 40 zones because the car is doing 50 and feels so slow )

Ride comfort is night and day different - The MK4 was crashy and harsh on all but the smoothest surfaces. The MK5 is pretty comfy based on spending 657 miles in it on one day.

That same 657 mile trip was done on the same tank of fuel so I am also happy with the economy of it.

My main gripe with the FR TDi is the lack of boot space - They have put the battery in the boot with the spare wheel and it takes around 70mm from the depth of the boot.

 

[skeat12]

I have driven a mk5 tdi fr ibiza, and have had a mapped mk4fr tdi also. Ibiza mk5 is more refined, personally not as good handling, not as good on fuel as mk4 but quieter. Not very urgent, and without a shadow of a doubt not as fast as a mk4. I was personally disappointed!

Doubt it would be as fast as a mapped mk4, although would be interesting to see a mk5 and mk4 (both standard) in a strip race.

 

[DEAN0]

Doubt it would be as fast as a mapped mk4, although would be interesting to see a mk5 and mk4 (both standard) in a strip race.

I hadn't spotted that. I agree a standard Mk5 with 140hp will not be as quick as a remaped Mk4 with around 175hp.

 

[ScottiCupraTDI]

Picked up my ex demo SC FR TDI with 390 miles on the clock for £13,500. Was a few months old. Only extra was met black paint. So £14k a little steep in my opinion?

Best thing to do is get a valuation from Glass' and use that as a bartering tool if they value it lower. Costs a few quid but may save you £100's?

I owned a Mk4 Cupra TDI for 2 years before my FR. Have now done about 1000 miles and must say, its so much quieter and nicer to drive. Ride is very refined and not crashy like the mk4 I feel. The car seems to handle just as well although brakes aren't as good as the Cupra. Now ive ran it in a bit, I can confirm the engine does go quite well when revved upto 4k like the Cupra.

I was a little disappointed when I first got it as it seemed much slower than the cupra. However now its beginning to free up and im giving it the beans, it accellerates quite well and the speedo is most defo decieving!!

The longer 5th and 6th gear in comparison to the Cupra make overtaking a tad more risky, but dropping to 4th and its away.

I read on a SEAT press publication that the new FR TDI is quicker over 1000m by a second or so, quicker to 60 by a second or so and quicker in gear (cant remember which) by a second or so.

Hope this helps?

 

[J_FR]

I got mine in a similar deal, 4k miles, just over 4 months old 5dr for £13.5k

A mate at work has a 1.4 sport and the ride is very similar to my FR.

Economy wise you can get 50mpg easily on a combined cycle, not the quoted figures but pretty decent considering the performance.

 

[Cornish Pixie]

I got mine in a similar deal, 4k miles, just over 4 months old 5dr for £13.5k

A mate at work has a 1.4 sport and the ride is very similar to my FR.

Economy wise you can get 50mpg easily on a combined cycle, not the quoted figures but pretty decent considering the performance.

Have to agree, getting anywhere near the quoted economy figures requires some serious concentratin, however as long as journeys aren't stupid short low 50's average is achievable on a regular basis.

I think the reason people think they are "slower" is because thers no real massive lump of power as the turbo comes on song, the power delivery is much more linear and therefore doesn't feel as "powerful"

very deceptive car, dead easy to find yourself cruising at 80-90 without realising it and very easy to find yourself speeding in 30mph limits.

The ride is firm but not over harsh, and coming from a car that was running Jamex coillies I'd say the FR's ride is positively limo like.

 

[paulov]

I had my white TDI FR from new and I have to say it was fairly tight! However I have now done 11000 miles and it is going like a dream. Over the bank holiday did a 350 mile trip mixed motorway, A & B roads, the car was comfortable and averaged mid 50's to the gallon. I previously had a Fabia VRS and as other have said it doesn't feel as quick, but there is more torque and you can soon find yourself over the limit.

 

[sicasey]

FR TDi owned for 10 months, 10.5K;

1) Ride is too firm for UK roads but you do get used to it.
2) Lots of road noise and wind noise
3) Quick enough but will not set the world alight
4) Very good MPG 50+ is no worries
5) Lacking on exterior kit, looks too tall and rides high
6) General all round warm hatch but by no means a hot hatch, I wish I had saved for a Clio 200 to be honest. Maybe next time.

 

[DEAN0]

FR TDi owned for 10 months, 10.5K;

1) Ride is too firm for UK roads but you do get used to it.
2) Lots of road noise and wind noise
3) Quick enough but will not set the world alight
4) Very good MPG 50+ is no worries
5) Lacking on exterior kit, looks too tall and rides high
6) General all round warm hatch but by no means a hot hatch, I wish I had saved for a Clio 200 to be honest. Maybe next time.

If it was a clio 200 type car you were after I would say you picked the wrong car.

Looks like a remap is on the cards for you sooner rather than later.

 

[sicasey]

If it was a clio 200 type car you were after I would say you picked the wrong car.

Looks like a remap is on the cards for you sooner rather than later.

That's a fairly obvious statement to make, however I probably expected a little more from the car than it has delivered coming from a long line of "quick" diesels.

 

[bundy1981]

i'm not really after a hot hatch as such just soemething with a bit of oomph that is good on economy and costs insurance etc, also the fact the speed blue looks the bees knees helps. So from this thread would it be safe to say its possible the dealer could knock £4k off the new asking price as i believe the cost new with custom paint is about £17,700