1.6 TDI Ecomotive MPG

[ddc]

Just chopped in my old 06 Toledo 5P 1.9PD for a new MK2 Leon 1.6 TDI Ecomotive

Just wondered if anyone else here has any experience of the actual MPG to expect?? I was getting almost spot on combined with the Toledo but although it's very early days with the Leon I'm not even seeing urban figures.. Are the book figures pie in the sky??

 

[m0rk]

We're struggling with our 1.6CR Leon mpg wise. Not yet had a reliable 50mpg from it.

I think the manual will allow a little more short shifting over the DSG though, so you might get it!

 

[ddc]

Thanks mOrk,

one of my reasons for asking is we've go a couple of skoda superb greenlines at work for pool cars and they've returned around 65+mpg on a run , even from new.. I've even had 76mpg showing on the trip after a run form down south to liverpool and back (but I was trying!)..

Guess I'll need to run the new machine in and see what it's like after a few thousand..

Cheers

Dave

 

[m0rk]

The Octy has a much better profile for drag, which will help get the real world mpg, I think that's why the Leon suffers

 

[AndyG_TSi]

In my 1.4 tsi sport Ive had 49mpg on the motorway pootling along at 60mph.
Some others have had mid 50's from theirs

I would imagine your Ecoboost would easily crack the mid 50 Mark
Just give it some time to bed in, you'll be right after a bit

 

[alnsaz]

I regularly get around 55 mpg and more like 60 mpg on a good run

Crackin little engine, quiet and a good cruiser but it can struggle a bit which will affect the mpg

I sometimes see the mpg as low as 40-45 around town, it also pretty hilly here

The bonus comes when you renew the road tax and it's free!

Enjoy mate!

 

[GainfulShrimp]

I also have an Ecomotive 1.6CR and the homologated official figures are a little optimistic, in my experience. I have only seen a journey average of >74mpg on two occasions in the approx 18 months that I've owned the car... both times I was doing long distance and trying very hard to maximise economy.
On regular journeys if I'm in a rush, I'll see mid-high 50s. If I'm driving with economy in mind, probably 63mpg average (but more for very long journeys if I try hard).
If stuck in heavy urban traffic for hours and hours, maybe mid 30s (in those conditions with my petrol FR, it would be on single figures!).

I don't think you'll see the best mpg figures until at least 10k miles and probably not until 20k, if it's like mine.

Also, if yours has rubbish tyres as stock (mine had standard Pirelli P6s - *not* the LRR 'Cinturato' version), you'll benefit from changing to a proper eco tyre like the Michelin Energy Savers that I use in the summer months. I'm using winter tyres at the moment and they've cost me a few mpg.

I'm still pretty pleased with the economy of mine. I had to try really hard to get 400 miles per tank out of my pre-FL petrol FR. With the Ecomotive, you can get 800 miles when trying and I always get >700 miles per tank even when not really trying. I do a high mileage so, for me, the fuel savings absolutely dwarf the road tax savings, but the free tax disc thing is certainly a nice little bonus.

 

[ddc]

Cheers for the replys guys much appreciated..

I know I'm a little optimistic as mine only got 500 miles on the clock!!

But I was expecting highish 60's once it's run in.. old Toeldo had 114K when I traded her in and got 52-55mpg on my 550 mile/week run to and from work..

I'll check out what tyres are fitted GS, they are P7's but I'll see if they are a LRR version.. Spec for the car says it should be fitted with LRR tyres.. That + the aero kit and gear ratios are the only thing I could see that are supposed to give it the additional 10mpg above the non Eco 1.6 TDI..

I'll see how it goes, should have a few K on it in a week or two..

 

[dukebox9reg]

ive had an ecomotive a couple of times as a courtesy car and over the same journeys to work which is around a 40 mile round trip a day which is a combination of town,motorway and b-road and i get around 48-53 mpg in my mapped 140 pd dsg(on the trip)and with the ecomotive driving it in a very similar way (and using stop start in town) was averaging around 5-10mpg more with the best result being 64mpg but i was trying.

comparing that to the official figures it's quite disappointing but then i thought about it and 60+mpg in the real world and a motor which is punchier than the figures suggest cant be sniffed at.

Was that impressed i got my mate to buy 1.(he was originally going for a CRZ)

 

[tehguy]

I didn't think there was a DSG version of the 1.6tdi

As for MPG I can easily get over 55mpg on my drive to work which is only 4 miles and a mix of 30mph and 40mph with a lot of start and stop (depending on traffic lights).

On my last big run, up to London and back (before we hit the M25/etc) with 3 of us in the car I averaged about 60mpg each way

 

[carpboy]

i average around 50 to 55 in mine which is a mix of town and dual carriageway and i still love her

 

[m0rk]

I didn't think there was a DSG version of the 1.6tdi

Leon Copa 1.6CR TDI DSG SE

 

[ddc]

Sounds like I'm going to be a little disapointed when she's run in by the sound of it I wonder how they get away with publishing the super high book figures that you'll never get near??


Love the car, but if I'd known the economy was not going to be anywhere near the book figures I'd probably gone for the standard 1.6 tdi and got an SE with a few more goodies..

 

[GainfulShrimp]

I do sympathise. I bought mine when they had an introductory offer of £2k off, so basically spanked the discount on various upgrades to give me some nice toys such as bi-xenons and media system etc... made up for the lack of power in a way.

The whole 'official fuel economy' thing is always going to be virtually impossible to get right. Under the current scheme, cars that fit certain pigeon holes are homologated together into the same fixed economy figures, which should in theory approximate to their actual abilities.
If you search for cars which have an official 'combined' figure of 74.3mpg, like the Ecomotive, you'll find loads of examples of cars which have that figure quoted for them - but you'll find none with similar, but different figures (which is what you'd expect if the figures had been derived empirically for each individual model of car). That's because of the homologation process.
Needless to say, amongst the cars within a homologated group, there will be winners and losers: cars whose *actual* performance is slightly worse or slightly better than the official ratings. I'm willing to bet that the Ecomotive 1.6CR would rate lower than its official figures if tested on its own, as I've only ever met the 'combined' figure on a very long run when trying hard to maximise mpg.

But that said, meeting or beating the figures is probably possible if you're willing to completely change your driving style and practice hypermiling etc. Check out cleanmpg.com for tips from the economy driving experts: those guys take mpg very seriously indeed. (I thought my own efforts were quite good until I realised I was using UK gallons and most figures on that site are in US gallons - duh!)

 

[ddc]

Thanks for the reply GS,

I wonder if I scanned a few Golf blue motion & Octavia greenline 2 threads I'd find the same issue and slightly disappointed owners?

By the way I finally checked out my tyres properly today and they are bog standard P7's not the low rolling resistance version.. The current model year catalogue states that the ecomotive is fitted with low friction tyres to get the increased mpg & 99g .. So is it wrong?? If the tyres are needed to get the 99g/km figure then it shouldn't be sold new without them..

Anyway I'll check out cleanmpg.com and once I've put another 700 miles on she will be run in and I'll start trying to get the mpg up..